Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018–2021 Arab protests

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Even though no consensus to delete exists, it is clear from this debate that there is some issues with the article. I encourage participants to explore potential renaming, hack-back-and-start-again, or alternative editing options on the article talk page. Daniel (talk) 23:28, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2018–2021 Arab protests (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

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Article that makes a soup of separate Arab protests in a span of 3 years without a single reference connecting them to each other, WP:SYNTH Cainschuck (talk) 20:05, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 June 5. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 20:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:28, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as SYNTH. There’s been a rash of these articles recently, along the lines of “Protests in random country between random dates.” The specific protests in question are well handled in the main articles for each, and there’s no solid basis for this stitching together of different events into a specific topic. Mccapra (talk) 20:56, 5 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename to Arab Spring 2.0 or Arab World protests (2018–19) - the original article was about a series of 2018-19 Arab protests most notably Algerian and Sudanese revolutions, nicknamed the second Arab Spring (see sources [1],[2],[3]). Quote from Q&A on Arab Spring 10 years after: "We have also seen renewed protests throughout the region starting in late 2018, including in countries that didn’t see much activity during the 2011 protests. In what some dubbed an “Arab Spring 2.0,” Algeria and Sudan both saw their dictators toppled by protesters in 2019, while Lebanon, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, and Jordan, among others, all saw new bouts of protests as well.".GreyShark (dibra) 10:01, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Note: The article was created originally as Arab World protests (2018–19), but then renamed to its current ambiguous title, which was then updated to 2018–2020 Arab protests and finally 2018–2021 Arab protests while loosing any connection with the content and original intention.GreyShark (dibra) 10:01, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Forgive me if it's out there GreyShark but I failed to find the reference using the term "Arab Spring 2.0" Cainschuck (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are forgiven.GreyShark (dibra) 18:33, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Article topic is notable and well referenced. No reason to delete. Future expansions and creation of new content could be integrated into this or this could be integrated into another article. It's wasteful and destructive to trash a perfectly good article. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 20:44, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Wikipedia:No original research. It's well referenced, but an original analysis/ synthesis of the sources which move beyond the supporting content/context of the cited material.4meter4 (talk) 16:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The article features numerous reliable sources describing these protests a part of new protest wave. Charles Essie (talk) 16:16, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and TNT a recreation using sources, not opinion or editorial analysis. Per SYNTH and OR. GenQuest ^"scribble" 21:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but Lebanon, Syria, Libya, and Egypt should be removed from the article. Reliable sources have drawn connections between the protests in Algeria, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, Jordan, Iraq, and Gaza, so that aspect of the article does not run afoul of WP:OR or WP:SYNTH. I haven't seen a reliable source which has connected the more recent protests in the other four countries to the older ones, so those should be removed from the article until a reliable source is found which draws the connections. Mlb96 (talk) 23:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• I strongly object to removal of those countries from the article. Especially Lebanon, because of the striking similarities between those protests and the ones in Iraq (corruption, foreign interference, particracy, poor public services and sectarianism are common grievances). Charles Essie (talk) 21:49, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - there seems to be coverage/ discussion of this as a topic of interest. Adding further references and maybe a critique section of it existence as a unifiable "revolution" may help to outline the issues addressed above. Jamzze (talk) 17:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The amount of sources on this subject and the fact this page clearly covers an extremely broad set of important protests on a national scale, with international ramifications make me actually confused as to why this a deletion request. Therefore I support a strong keep. Des Vallee (talk) 10:07, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The article should be kept but improved with new information.

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.