Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 Pearl Continental Hotel attack

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The result was merge‎ to Pearl-Continental Hotels & Resorts. I'm closing this as a Merge. I just selected a reasonable target article but information can be Merged to other articles as well that are appropriate. For those editors arguing to Keep this article, no new sources were added to the article or brought into this discussion so either there are none or no one looked for them. Feel free to edit about this incident on whichever articles the content is Merged to. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:48, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2019 Pearl Continental Hotel attack

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A search for ""Pearl continental" gwadar -wikipedia" in google news shows almost all coverage from May 2019. Does not seem to have lasting coverage to meet WP:EVENT. LibStar (talk) 23:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Terrorism and Pakistan. LibStar (talk) 23:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There might be later coverage in whatever native language this area speaks, it's Pakistan, I doubt any post-breaking news sources would be in English if they exist. (searching in right to left languages is hard). Failing that, merge (the one sentence in the article) to Pearl-Continental Hotels & Resorts. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:03, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Events and Travel and tourism. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:21, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep CNN, The Guardian, Dawn, BBC and Al Jazeera covered this event.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 19:09, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They all covered it in May 2019, needs persistent coverage as per WP:LASTING. LibStar (talk) 22:15, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - per NEVENTcoverage does not need to be ongoing for notability to be established...a burst or spike of news reports does not automatically make an incident notable sometimes interpreting whether an event is sufficiently notable can be tricky. I consider merging this into Pearl-Continental Hotels & Resorts is a great ATD seeing as I otherwise would not have a strong opinion either way. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:11, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The event had an impact on human populations, as many were killed, and it was a terrorist attack. DIV IN E 04:53, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not all terrorist and fatal attacks get a Wikipedia article. You haven't addressed how WP:EVENT is met. LibStar (talk) 07:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Before you replied someone about WP:LASTING and it is clearly mentioned on WP:LASTING that it is considered notable if the human population has been impacted. And WP:EVENT has clearly mentioned that it is notable that if there is last effect it does have Lasting effect. DIV IN E 08:58, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:DIVINE, if secondary sources don't prove a lasting effect, then there's no notability. Drmies (talk) 18:35, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you looked sources using Pakistan/hind/urdu or you’re making your own assumptions? DIV IN E 18:37, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:DIVINE, pay attention. I didn't say there were none, I didn't say there were some. I said nothing of the kind, and I didn't look, not in any language. I'm talking about the principle. If you want to prove that there is a lasting effect, you need secondary sourcing. You're not proving that there is a lasting effect; you're just claiming there is. Also, refrain from responding to everyone--that's badgering, and your comment below to Shazback is getting there. Drmies (talk) 20:27, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will keep that in mind and add some additional lasting sources, as I might have seen some in different language news sources. And below, i was asking about the redirect, but nothing much. DIV IN E 06:59, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Insurgency in Balochistan: Event does not appear to have independent, lasting impact, nor sufficiently in-depth coverage and analysis to establish notability. However, it is notable as part of the broader insurgency in the region. Shazback (talk) 18:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How? DIV IN E 18:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We have no consensus and, right now, two different Merge target articles mentioned (although a mention in each might be appropriate). I was surprised not to see this attack mentioned at Pearl-Continental Hotels & Resorts which does cover another disastrous incident at one of their hotels. Editors arguing to Keep should share any sources they have found that demonstrates LASTING coverage and influence.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:22, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to any of the following: Pearl-Continental Hotels & Resorts, Insurgency in Balochistan, or Terrorist incidents in Pakistan in 2019. The sourcing does not exist for an independent article. No strong preference on which is the merge target, but it wouldn't hurt to add a mention to the other two afterward. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 18:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.