Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AS-PL

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Only one user arguing for keep and their rationale is not convincing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 12:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AS-PL

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Fails WP:NCORP. Has unsourced claims about being the largest supplier in Poland and being a leader on the worldwide aftermarket. Sources are mostly mentions. Article uses ref fraud, source 4 does not mention the company. » Shadowowl | talk 14:32, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 15:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We have changed the indicated errors described by Shadowowl Monrobang2017 (talk) 06:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Kpg jhp jm 01:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We recommend to save the site on wikipedia, all the mentioned errors have been corrected and now the site meets all the conditions of wikipedia Monrobang2017 (talk) 06:40, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Question Monrobang2017 please explain who you mean by "we". Have you a connection with this company? HighKing⁺⁺16:18, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Entirely promotional and fails WP:SPIP, I cannot locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability, fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺16:18, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Answer HighKing Through "we", I have thought about my several friends. This is our hobby to introduce new articules to Wikipedia. I (we) have no connections with this company.Monrobang2017 (talk) 07:24, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Response If you have a WP:COI you should disclose it properly. You have also promoted this company on Polish-language Wikipedia and you have uploaded the company's logo and other corporate images on Wikimedia. HighKing⁺⁺11:35, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Answer I don't have WP:COI.The fact that I entered the company on the Polish version of Wikipedia is because I also live in Gdansk as AS-PL, and I am a big fan of automotive and aftermarket industry and this is my hobby. That's why I added this entry to the English version of the site. I do not understand what the problem is and why the brawl about me is? As I wrote before the entry has an objective nature and preserves encyclopedic principles, it is not an self-promotional artiule.Monrobang2017 (talk) 12:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Response Sorry but that story is simply not credible. You first created this article on the polish-language Wikipedia in 2017 and you haven't created any other articles on any other companies in this field, despite you saying that it is your "hobby" and you're a "big fan"? That, coupled with your comments on the Polish-language Wikipedia on 10th October 2017 (where you also you "we" and display an impressive knowledge of this organization) leads me to this conclusion. Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion nor a Yellow Pages. HighKing⁺⁺16:21, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Answer In my opinion, this discussion is starting to lose its meaning. Because, I clearly wrote why the entry was found here. Whether do you believe with this or not, it's doesn’t matter. Last year I have just started my adventure with Wikipedia and I started with the entry of this company. Is something wrong with that? So what, that I have knowledge of the organization? I’m using Internet and company website, hence I have knowledge, everybody can do this. It’s easy. Where can you see any elements of the self-promotion on this entry? This is a normal encyclopedic entry with no self-promotion elements. Let's concentrate on the facts, i.e. the entry complies with the rules of Wikipedia, has an objective character, preserves the style of the encyclopedia, and does not contain any elements of advertising or self-promotion. Everybody already knows your opinion, let’s give a chance for other users to discuss on this matter. Have a nice day.Monrobang2017 (talk) 09:00, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - Response OK, lets put all that aside and I'll WP:AGF. I'm sure you'll accept that from history and experience of past editors, those that have only focused on a single company article and use language as you have done, both here and in on Polish language Wikipedia, tend to be either paid editors or editors with a COI. HighKing⁺⁺11:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - Answer OK, using the WP:AGF . I would like to ask for your tips on how I should improve this article to remain him on Wikipedia?Monrobang2017 (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The entry has an objective nature and preserves encyclopedic principles, it is not an self-promotional article. The references in the footnotes refer specifically to the company.Monrobang2017 (talk) 07:46, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Note this editor is the creator of the article here and on the Polish-language wikipedia. The account appears to be an WP:SPA with the sole purpose of promoting this company. The editor also appears to have an undisclosed WP:COI. The editor has uploaded the logo and other corporate imaged to Wikimedia. HighKing⁺⁺11:35, 27 September 2018 (UTC) [reply]
- Response There are no indications of notability available. None of the references meet the criteria for establishing notability. This sdcm article is a simple listing and fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Similarly, this worldsecuresystems reference is a simple listing of the company's membership in the IAAF and fails WP:CORPDEPTH. This next worldsecuresystems reference is not intellectually independent as it relies on a company announcement and makes extensive use of material provided by the company and quotations from various company officers. This fails WP:ORGIND. Finally, this motofocus reference is trivial coverage a non-notable award won by the company, fails WP:CORPDEPTH. I cannot locate any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability, topic fails WP:NCORP and GNG. HighKing⁺⁺11:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Answer OK, using the WP:AGF. I would like to ask for your tips on how I should improve this article to remain him on Wikipedia?Monrobang2017 (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - Response Hi Monrobang2017, please locate at least two references that meet the criteria for establishing notability (see WP:NCORP, especially WP:ORGIND and WP:CORPDEPTH, and once the topic is shown to be notable, this AfD will result in Keep and you can focus on improving the article content. HighKing⁺⁺14:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - Answer Hi HighKingThank you for your help and your tips. I tried to improve, please check is it good now. Monrobang2017 (talk) 06:05, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Hi Monrobang2017, none of the references are intellectually independent as they are based on company announcements and fail WP:ORGIND. HighKing⁺⁺09:28, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Hi HighKing, I resigned with the references because I can't find the intellectually independent on the Internet WP:ORGIND.Monrobang2017 (talk) 10:06, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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