Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aarti Gupta Surendranath

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎. Whether or not this is a clear keep, there is a reasonable argument made for retention and I don't think an additional relist will resolve that. Can be improved and, if needed, revisited down the line with another nom. Star Mississippi 22:15, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Aarti Gupta Surendranath (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Sources are unreliable and PR stuff, fails GNG and NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 06:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Women, Advertising, and Himachal Pradesh. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:52, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maharashtra-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Doesn't meet WP:NACTOR and WP:NPRODUCER. The claims should be backed by the reliable sources. Taabii (talk) 14:59, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I’ve updated the page and added more reliable sources and learning to improve the page further more, ur help on this topic/page would be much appreciated. Heloise327 (talk) 18:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Heloise327:Please don’t add SPONSORED PR articles to the article and claim that you added more reliable sources to prove notability. The StoryBoard18 source (whose reliability is unclear) is a SPONSORED article, as its tags clearly mention “Advertising” and “Brand-Marketing.” Additionally, the Times of India article you added is an INTERVIEW, which does not count toward notability. Please refrain from adding promotional content using such sources, as you did in your last edit. GrabUp - Talk 18:22, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Okay thank you for pointing it out, I’ll try to avoid doing that, also will the deletion go away if the article is updated properly… 182.56.209.33 (talk) 05:43, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I have made the necessary changes can you please lift the deletion now 2405:201:A:80AA:CCFA:F72E:656F:182A (talk) 09:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I have made the necessary changes you suggested, can you please lift the deletion Heloise327 (talk) 09:14, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I’m continuously working on improving the quality of the page and adding reliable citations, just need a little time to get a hang of Wikipedia as I’m a newbie editor, would really appreciate ur guidance and help on this. Heloise327 (talk) 17:57, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Heloise327 I'll try to help. Taabii (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you 182.56.209.33 (talk) 05:39, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Taabii@GrabUp please help me improve Aarti Gupta Surendranath’s article Heloise327 (talk) 05:57, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Please review article after recent additions to it.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:33, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reconsidering the article after the recent additions. I believe the article now contains well-sourced and accurate information that meets Wikipedia’s standards for notability and verifiability. If any specific issues remain that need to be addressed in order to retain the page, I am open to making the necessary improvements. Please let me know how to proceed. Heloise327 (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - this is not an encyclopedia article; it's an AI-generated pile of unsourced weasel words wrapped in a (citation needed):

1. "has been associated with several notable campaigns and projects"
2. "a family with a strong military background."
3. "Her father, Major ... was associated with the President’s office"
4. "she was featured walking down the slopes of Kodaikanal in a green sari. The campaign gained significant recognition."
5. "Aarti Gupta (now Surendranath) became the face of Garden Vareli’s inaugural print campaign."
6. "She styled her own look to blend ethnic and contemporary fashion, which became widely recognised."

Defend these. Bearian (talk) 02:09, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

She has hosted and been a part of many notable campaigns, and the information I’ve pulled out are from old newspapers and magazines which aren’t available online. I’ve been trying to find them but no luck so far. She has been a noted page 3 personality in the 80s and 90s and is well-known among many stars since she and her husband have launched many celebrities themselves. Please check Kailash Surendranath’s Wikipedia and connect the dots. 115.96.77.150 (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss on keeping the page as it is the right thing to do since there are enough strong and reliable sources/citations to back the page and so the deletion tag is no more necessary. If anyone has any issues regarding the language or the style used for the page please feel free to make your own edits. Heloise327 (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: I think there's a clear pass of WP:NACTOR here based on her verifiable and significant roles in Purana Mandir, Tahkhana, Saamri and Janbaaz ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7]). Since the height of her acting career predated most digital journalism, I suspect there are dead-tree sources available for a GNG pass as well, but she should pass on NACTOR. I don't think this is AI-generated, and while it is clearly promotional and needs to be cleaned up, WP:DINC. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the analysis and the sources brought forward by Dclemens1971. In the spirit of full disclosure, Heloise327 asked for help with this AfD on my talk page, and I offered some advice. The article needs work. Cullen328 (talk) 21:26, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.