Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdullah Ali

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) B dash (talk) 06:37, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abdullah Ali

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This article along with the rest of the articles for Emirati soccer players for the Hatta team are useless. They have hardly any information and the creator of the article has been blocked for sock puppeting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Proudpakistani11 (talk • contribs) .

Formatting AFD for nominator. Giant Snowman 13:33, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 13:37, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Soccerway (already present in the article) confirms many, many appearances in the UAE Pro-League, so he meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Needs improving, not deleting. Giant Snowman 13:38, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Arab Emirates-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:26, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Arabic sources are notoriously hard to search for, but I do see some routine game coverage from the UAE Pro League in English. WP:USELESS isn't an argument to make at AfD, but he passes WP:NFOOTY and I would assume WP:NEXIST. SportingFlyer T·C 18:46, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete If one googles Abdullah Ali, virtually no results show up regarding him as a soccer player. As a challenge, I urge you to google Abdullah Ali, there is no credible information on Google. He is virtually unknown and there is hardly any images of him. Why should he be kept as an article. Proudpakistani11 (talk) 23:23, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your nomination counts as a delete !vote, and a number of results come up, see [1] [2] [3], Abdulla Ali is also a valid English search term due to the transliteration, and googling his Arabic name along with the Arabic name of Hatta brings up results (I do not speak Arabic, but there were quite a few.) SportingFlyer T·C 00:26, 16 April 2019 (UTC)][reply]

Comment:While those articles did indeed mention Abdullah's name. We wasn't primarily mentioned, he was briefly mentioned as a mid-fielder and some of the news articles named him "Abdulla" instead of "Abdullah". Secondly, the article "Abdullah Ali" should be deleted because there literally not enough sources. Where is the verifiable information or citation sources for his height and date of birth? There is literally one source only, therefore I propose deletion. Lastly, there are several other players on the Hatta soccer club who don't have articles. Proudpakistani11 (talk) 01:00, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff not existing is not a reason to delete, and as shown there are lots of potential Arabic sources. Soccerway is a quality reference for height/date of birth, Abdulla/Abdullah isn't a problem either as mentioned. 1/8th of your total edits to Wikipedia have been to this AfD, which also concerns me. SportingFlyer T·C 01:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

We can verify this footballer exists with Soccerway and English-language coverage like this and this. He played in the AFC Champions League group stage as well. I’ll try to find Arabic-language sources that provide more in-depth coverage. Special:Contributions/Jogurney (talk) 05:59, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not enough coverage to justify an article.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:44, 16 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - footballer who has appeared in over 100 matches in a fully-pro league and is the subject of a decent amount of online coverage (e.g., [4] and [5] from Emarat Al Youm, plus the English-language coverage at Gulf News and Khaleej Times linked above). Passes NFOOTBALL and very likely passes GNG with some translation help. Jogurney (talk) 16:31, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – meets NFOOTY by a bit, barely makes GNG. 100+ games over five+ seasons in the UAE's top league (WP:FPL-listed) per Soccerway. There is probably Arabic-language coverage of him that is inaccessible to me. These two interviews with some reporting (barely) count as SIGCOV for me because it's sustained and in reliable sources: 2012 interview in Gulf News and 2017 interview in Emarat Al Youm. If it were a second- or third-division player, I'd probably be !voting delete, but I think a player who's played many games over multiple seasons in the top division in the UAE is likely notable, and the marginal SIGCOV I can find tends to reinforce that. Leviv ich 03:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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