Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Americans in Germany
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Consensus herein is for article retention. NORTH AMERICA1000 04:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
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No references, no evidence that such community exists. Tagged since June 2014 Staszek Lem (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Have I completely misunderstood you? You seem to be seriously saying there's no evidence that there's a community of American expatriates living in Germany?—S Marshall T/C 00:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Of course, I am pretty sure that persons expatriated from one country into another exist for nearly all combinations. The question is whether these individuals constitute a community which makes blips on Wikipedia radar. Anyway, references please. Please keep in mind that American military presence in Germany is a separate subject. Other than that I failed to find any significant info. Of course, I may be mistaken and lazy.... Staszek Lem (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- P.S. I guess the article author meant USAmericans in Germany (lumping them with, say, Brazilians would be confusion, right?). Staszek Lem (talk) 19:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- Of course, I am pretty sure that persons expatriated from one country into another exist for nearly all combinations. The question is whether these individuals constitute a community which makes blips on Wikipedia radar. Anyway, references please. Please keep in mind that American military presence in Germany is a separate subject. Other than that I failed to find any significant info. Of course, I may be mistaken and lazy.... Staszek Lem (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's about US Americans obviously. Anyway, the topic clearly is relevant. Even if it would be only about "American-German popular public people". The issue with this is that there's no references. I pledge for improvements instead of deletion. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- Btw, according to DESTATIS there were 107,755 Americans in Germany in 2013, which is among the top American populations abroad, see reference. -- Horst-schlaemma (talk) 11:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's about US Americans obviously. Anyway, the topic clearly is relevant. Even if it would be only about "American-German popular public people". The issue with this is that there's no references. I pledge for improvements instead of deletion. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
I extended the article with the most basic information/facts and references. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 13:23, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 00:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 00:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. NORTH AMERICA1000 00:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
- Keep - as Horst-schlaemma started with some initial work and a few references, it should be kept as notable topic. With civilian Americans (possibly), information about local integration (or non-integration) and the changing relations between Americans and Germans after WWII until today as additional aspects the article has very good chances of further development. I agree with the nominator in general, that articles are not needed for every tiny minority - but this is not one of those cases. GermanJoe (talk) 00:25, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
- Keep (I would also suggest renaming this to "American Germans" after the precedent of German Americans.) Pax 08:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
- Comment "American Germans" suggests that that article is about Americans who became German citizens, or Germans of American descent, whereas this article is about Americans living in Germany without intent to change their nationality. If the article is kept, I recommend against the name change. BenedictineMalediction (talk) 17:45, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA1000 11:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA1000 11:19, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA1000 10:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NORTH AMERICA1000 10:42, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Clearly notable, and references now added. --Boson (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)
- Everyone feel free to add content and references, but it shouldn't be listed here anymore. Cheers, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 10:47, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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