Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Apollo Brown

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. bd2412 T 03:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

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Subject is an American hip hop record producer. Sources provided from Utube, listing and interview piece. A WP:BEFORE found sources primary from user generated source, sell, listing and interview and no independent reliable secondary sources found. Fails WP:MUSICBIO, WP:ANYBIO and WP:SIGCOV. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:44, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 03:44, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete a non-notable music producer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Fails WP:GNG. No independent reliable sources found. Clearly not notable. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 06:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete doesn't demonstrate notability. - Scarpy (talk) 18:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I can't even understand why Apollo Brown is considered to be deleted. He has released a several albums, few of them were named in end-year top lists, he has released album with Ghostface Killah, Ras Kass etc. His albums have peaked on some Billboard charts (yet, I'm not sure which number it has to peak). Tashi _{Talk to me} 15:16, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If there indeed are reliable sources that can verify being on year-end top lists and Billboard chartings (that are independent from being the accomplishments of the artists he has worked with), then citing them could improve the page. But merely being accomplished doesn't necessarily translate in to wikipedia-notability if there are not independent, reliable sources. ShelbyMarion (talk) 15:44, 27 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Apollo Brown is a notable producer for anyone who knows Hip Hop and has collaborated with important rappers: he is known even outside the US (notice the French version of the article is a much better stub). The article just needs development and references: I'm willing to improve it and look for reliable sources if given more time for research Wapunguissa (talk) 09:41, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Lots of hits on Billboard which you should be able to use to improve the article. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• delete for lack of WP:SIGCOV. Yes, I do see the list of records that he produced, but we need indpenedent sourcing, stuff like published profiles of him, or discussions of him in articles and books about hip-hop or the music industry. At this point, as User:AuthorAuthor writes above, he seems to fail GNG and WP:BASIC. WP:TOOSOON.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep based on the Billboard coverage highlighted by Ritchie333, the current single source from Pitchfork, and the number of inbound links, suggesting good integration with the encyclopedia. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep He is a notable producer. The article also has enough references, which will surely be expanded by users if allowed to stay. I don't think it should have been nominated for deletion.Knightrises10 (talk) 13:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete fails WP:BASIC. All the sources provided, including the Billboard articles, are very trivial or routine coverage of the subject, or just passing mentions of the subject. The keep voters have provided few sources. wumbolo ^^^ 18:46, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.