Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/April 2019 Kalmunai shootout

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The result was keep. Sandstein 11:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

April 2019 Kalmunai shootout

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I had already PRODed this but was removed by article creator. The reason for deletion is that it's already covered in the intro and aftermath section of the 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings and I think it's covered well there. I don't think a separate article is needed here but want to see what other editors thoughts are. This incident occurred during the search operations that are taking place following the bombings. Also per WP:DEL#5. Please see this discussion with some other reasons I mentioned. Thanks Steven (Editor) (talk) 01:25, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawn by nominator: It doesn't look like anything else is being reported on this incident. So far, I've seen reports on the shootout and explosions with the deaths and then reports that it included relatives of the suspected mastermind of the Easter Sunday bombings. The references I've given also confirm the link. I'm not sure if this article can be expanded any further, and as this is part of the Easter bombings, I believe this will fit well in its own section and this could become a redirect to that section. Anyway, I wanted to see what others thoughts are and it seems at the moment the majority are in favour of keeping it. I'd like to withdraw this nomination if that's possible. It's still early anyway for this incident (3 days) so I think it's best to wait and see from then, also per some of the comments. Thanks everyone! Steven (Editor) (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Steven (Editor):While the nominator may withdraw their nomination at any time, if subsequent editors have suggested an outcome besides keep or added substantive comments unrelated to deletion, the discussion should not be closed simply because the nominator wishes to withdraw it. It's not relevant that the majority believe the article should be kept, Wikipedia is not experimenting on WP:DEMOCRACY, a closing admin will carefully read the discussion, weigh all the facts, evidence and arguments presented and determine if it inline with Wikipedia deletion policy. --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 19:17, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and consider speedy close. An unnecessary fork, does nothing except makes monitoring vandalism more complex. Reh man 02:31, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Major incident involving 15 deaths and 2 injuries, has been widely reported by WP:RS , the aftermath of this incident resulted in house to house raids in the area which recovered evidence linking three persons to the murder of 2 police officers in November 2018 (Which being investigated as the possibly the first incident to be linked to the group that carried out the Easter Sunday bombings). --Eng. M.Bandara-Talk 03:17, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Two different events though they are related These are two different events and the raid with the militants definitely deserve a special article . The raid itself has more to do with organized militants hiding out than the easter attack Brief mention is not enough about this raid Chandrani876 (talk) 04:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Update ISIS claims responsibility ISIS has claimed responsibility for the raid . This definitely is a separate incident and media report it as a seperate incident Chandrani876 (talk) 05:48, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

Keep Separate event with more deaths that are not specifically because of the easter bombings.--Blackknight12 (talk) 06:30, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or *Redirect This was a separate shootout and I was the one who add about this detail in the opening paragraph of 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings. The news sources later revealed that 15 have reportedly dead and I think this should deserve the article or create a subsection in the2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings article or else redirect it. Abishe (talk) 07:59, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely Keep Two different incidents and with 16 deaths and ISIS claiming responsibility.This event did not happen because of the Easter attack but happened due to the army raiding the cell of militants--- Hirunika Balasuriya (talk) 12:54, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep As more information has come out on the incident, this is surely the AfD debate closed? I mean, it's definitely notable now... Cheesy McGee (talk) 14:09, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sri Lanka-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 14:50, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This was a separate shootout. Brief mention is not enough. User:Randeepa

Delete Obviously fall-out from Easter bombings. All of the information can be given in 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings.--Obi2canibe (talk) 17:33, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Requesting second reassess from those opposing and possible nominator withdrawal - It is a separate incident in that it happened on a different day but it is part of the Easter bombings, taken place during the subsequent search operations. Here's a few articles which also confirm the link; 1 2 3 4 5 - the text related to this incident has become a new section which I think will give prominence for this and anything extra can be added here. What do you think? Chandrani876, Blackknight12, Hirunika Balasuriya, Cheesy McGee, Randeepa --Steven (Editor) (talk) 18:43, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It should be kept if there is more information. If the content can be added to Easter bombings page without loss of important information then there is no need for a separate article. - UmdP 18:52, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I still think It should be kept It definitely was related to the search operations but the attackers were a organized group of militants .The raid and the bombing are not completely related.There is no harm in keeping that article. There are many articles like this. Most people are asking to keep it as well.You cannot technically add the infobox into the Easter Bombing Article either. It simplify the events . Much more useful.User:Chandrani
Keep deadly shooting. widely covered. Possibility of merging can be raised again after the dust has settled.E.M.Gregory (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I still strongly believe this should be kept : Reply to comment ---This is a deadly attack that happened after the Easter Bombing,This is not a small event. If this is to be deleted then the title of 2019 Sri Lanka Easter bombings should be changed to fit this in which is not practical . Though related this is not the same event and this is not a small event . I am completely opposed to deleting this and vast majority of the people here agrees . Take the Puluwama Attack for example it describes the border standoff that happened after the attack in the wiki article itself (the border stand off happened as a response to the attack) but there is also a wiki page dedicated to the border stand off link. The raiding was a response to the attack it definitely is a completely different event. The raid was deadly and not a small event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hirunika Balasuriya (talk • contribs) 23:09, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It is a significant event for Sri Lanka, as a deadly confrontation between army leading family of the islamic group. I'm sure the 'delete' question would not even be asked for a similar US event. English Wikipedia belongs to the people from Indian subcontinent too. We must be careful not to be ethnocentrist.ManuelParis (talk) 01:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ManuelParis Of course this is a significant event for Sri Lanka. The English Wikipedia is used worldwide, there is no ethnocentrism here. Also please see my withdrawal comment below. Steven (Editor) (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It's a deadly shooting in which 15 died including one civilian. 84percent (talk) 06:19, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Separate event from the bombings, covered extensively in the media. Deserves its own article. Applodion (talk) 20:11, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Applodion, it's not separate from the bombings, see above and here for example. Steven (Editor) (talk) 20:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC) Steven (Editor) However this is a major event and a lot media covered it as a separate event to the bombing,for example .And the event itself is a major event. There have being multiple wikipedia articles that have sub-articles describing major events happening as a linked result of the initial incident Chandrani876 (talk) 21:47, 29 April 2019 (UTC).[reply]

Another example of media reporting it as a separate incident IS claims responsibility for attack in Kalmunai Days after Easter bombings, fresh explosions hit Sri LankaChandrani876 (talk)

References

Keep - It received ongoing coverage and passes WP:GNG. -- Dane ^talk 02:35, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.