Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/BJ Sam

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The result was delete‎. Owen× ☎ 15:29, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BJ Sam

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The subject of this article fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSICBIO. Most of the sources cited in the article are primary sources and are not independent of him. Although they can be used in the article, they cannot confer notability. The song he recorded for a film is not notable and the film itself isn't notable. The christmas song he recorded with other acts fails WP:NSONG and isn't notable. The song and video he released to shed light on the Russia-Ukraine war is also not notable. The subject has been active since 2010 and has not released a single body of work, only a handful of non-notable singles.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 20:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please kindly do your research well. I don’t think you should comment on articles from another continent that you are not familiar with.
BJ Sam is referred to as a global musician on all the National televisions in Nigeria. All the major tv and newspapers in Nigerian has written about him. check out some of his recent interviews on Nigeria’s national TV stations on YouTube
BJ Sam is among the few Nigerian singers whose songs are featured in American movies. He is also the first singer to feature other singers and musicians from all the continents of the world in one song Mamatata7 (talk) 20:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
First off, you do not know me so you can't tell me what to or what not to comment on. For your info, I lived in Nigeria for a few years and I am well knowledgeable about the Nigerian music industry. I have created closed to 180 articles on Wikipedia and 80 percent of them are related to Nigeria. BJ Sam isn't any major artist in Nigeria. If he was so "big", this article wouldn't be at AFD.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 20:50, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the sources are independent of him, from notable newspapers from Nigeria, UK, Senegal, USA etc Mamatata7 (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm not familiar enough with notability guidelines to make a call one way or the other, however I used to monitor this article and found that it was the subject of a lot of disruptive edits from editors who don't have a good grasp on site policies. Not sure if that counts for anything.
I find your comment about most citations being primary sources to be confusing. Unless I missed one of the refs being an interview, every source appears to be independent of BJ Sam. Taffer😊 💬(she/they) 19:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This is false. References 6, 8, and 12 are not independent of the subject. They are interviews conducted by newspaper journalists. Interview sources do not count as secondary sources and cannot be used to establish notability. References 4 and 10 are press release info about his song "Merry Christmas", which fails WP:SONG and is not notable. The four songs ("Marry Me", "Merry Christmas", "Hear the Angels Sing", "Show Some love", and "Mon Armour") mentioned in the article all fail WP:NSONG and are not notable.
The subject doesn't meet any criterion of WP:MUSICBIO. For an artist who is supposed to be "big", he hasn't won or been nominated for a major award in Nigeria. I rest my case. This particular artist doesn't deserve a stand-alone article.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 20:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I should have looked at the refs closer, I stand corrected. Taffer😊 💬(she/they) 20:58, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
All the References you mentioned has been removed Mamatata7 (talk) 21:13, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The subject meet the criterion; BJ Sam is the first singer-songwriter to successfully and repeated feature musical acts from all the continents of the world in one song. And one of the few Singers from Africa whose songs are featured in Hollywood movies and he has performed in several countries Mamatata7 (talk) 22:10, 18 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
successfully and repeatedly Mamatata7 (talk) 22:11, 18 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean an artist that has featured and collaborated with over 100 musicians and celebrities from all the continent of the world including famous Hollywood Oscar nominee Paul Raci, Bollywood legend Jaspinder Narula; Grammy voting pianist Charu Suri; Monaco ballet star-singer Lorena Baricalla and many others is not notable?
An artist that government officials and diplomats from Europe and America called to assembled other musicians and celebrities from all the continents of the world and create peace song for Ukraine-Russian war is not notable?
Do you know that there so many famous artists have never win a Grammy award yet.
BJ Sam has been invited by the Grammy Recording Academy to join as a voting members. Mamatata7 (talk) 08:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete After reviewing, there seems to be little indication of notability. If the article was newer, I'd suggest moving it back to draft space, but it can get re-written if/when the subject meets notability criteria. Taffer😊 💬(she/they) 21:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Digging into the page history, this article was rejected after its first submission by a sockpuppet. revision 1175065482. Maybe I don't understand the AFC process that well, but I'm not sure how the article ever made it to mainspace after that. Taffer😊 💬(she/they) 22:24, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think others may have written about the subject before Mamatata7 (talk) 22:29, 18 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't prevent another person from contributing to the subject Mamatata7 (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BJ Sam is well known and respected musician and international booking agent in Nigeria who has also manage stage for Wizkid, Davido, 2face Idibia and so many others top musicians before venturing into the global music scene. He has been interviewed on several international radio and tv stations across the world including TV5MONDE France, Channels TV Nigeria, Silverbird TV Niger 9janews (talk) 14:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BJ Sam is a notable singer in Nigeria and beyond, I have seen his music videos on all the major tv stations in Nigeria. Based on the references provided and personal research I can tell that he is a notable figure. I also checked his Linkedin page and saw his tours and events coming up this years in the US and other countries Mylyvyn1 (talk) 16:55, 23 February 2025 (UTC) Blocked for sock puppetry PhilKnight (talk) 15:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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