Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boy Eats Drum Machine
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 11:38, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
- Boy Eats Drum Machine (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
In fact PRODed when this first began in 2009 but removed with the basis of adding sources, but not only are they still not actually convincing, none of it suggests the better substance we would need for convincing, and my own searches are also noticing this (only 1 local news article in all of executed searches), the one listed here is simply a few barebone thin paragraphs, basically simply explaining who he is therefore none of it amounts for a convincing article. SwisterTwister talk 02:57, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. In addition to the NPR coverage already cited, I also found a bio and review at Allmusic, and thiswhich I'm not sure about WP:RS-wise. I suspect others could find more. --Michig (talk) 18:13, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. The NPR coverage is a short review, not enough to establish notability , and allmusicisan unreliable source for a bio. DGG ( talk ) 23:33, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
- Allmusic is a reliable source. --Michig (talk) 05:54, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 09:23, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Allmusic is generally treated as an RS, though personally I prefer more than just Allmusic for an article - David Gerard (talk) 16:30, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- as do I, hence the weak keep. --Michig (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Comment not sure. Allmusic is an RS, there's some RS coverage that's local Portland ... is there anything other than concert listings outside Portland? - David Gerard (talk) 16:43, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete none of the coverage comes even close to meeting the notability guidelines for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 23:30, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
- Keep There is sufficient coverage in AllMusic and The Oregonian to meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 06:37, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- The analysis by other users show itself that the one mere bio and review along with an obvious local event listing actually emphasize the sheer bareness of actual coverage, simply advertising where the band is going to be is not actual coverage, it simply advertises the band for its local clients. There is not even a sufficient amount to actually improve the article hence there is no "general notability" let alone substance. SwisterTwister talk 06:43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- This article from The Oregonian is not a "local event listing". It is an in-depth profile of the subject. The AllMusic biography is a reliable source. Cunard (talk) 07:02, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:TOOSOON; insufficient RS coverage to meet WP:NMUSIC just yet. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:51, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Question for the post-relist discussion: are the article's sources sufficient to establish notability? A Traintalk 12:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Traintalk 12:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Relisting comment: Question for the post-relist discussion: are the article's sources sufficient to establish notability? A Traintalk 12:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, A Traintalk 12:14, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable; just not sufficient independent coverage; local passing interest at this point and Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Kierzek (talk) 15:20, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. The Oregonian and other Portland media coverage and the AllMusic material provide substantive RS coverage; that he has something of a national, rather than merely local/regional, presence is established by briefer RS sources such as the NPR Second Stage appearance [1], a short positive review in a Phoenix New Times[2] article about Northwest music, and by a brief Washington Post mention that describes one of his records as "A shape-shifting marvel of beats, horns and homemade pop" and "grievously underrated" [3]. --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:58, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.