Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Solis

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Content issues can be fixed through normal editing. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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One of many such articles about marketing execs where a lot of effort has been made to make the page look legitimately sourced, when it isn't actually.

Out of more than 30+ sources, I have not found any that are acceptable/verify notability. Sources include brief mentions, quotes, interviews, and tips (lots of tips sources). There's amazon.com as a source, a marketing agency blog, a few other personal blogs, and a few citations to Brian Solis' homepage. The strong mainstream media sources in the article do not provide biographical information on him, but are interviews, tips, quotes and how-to pieces.

There are a few hits of him being quoted in The New York Times, but no biographical profiles. It's possible stubbing rather than deleting may be appropriate, as he does have some notability in marketing circles. CorporateM (Talk) 18:34, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Stub: on the principle that he has written three books that have their own entries, and if those books are notable enough to be listed (and this is a whole other debate) then there should at least be some page for the author IMO. The rest of it looks like fluff, and I did recently AfD a linked article about an infographic which seemed like like fluff too. To be honest, the first time I read this article I did think that it should be deleted, but the books might just establish some notability. Shritwod (talk) 19:15, 5 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:51, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:51, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:51, 6 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure if this is helpful, but his book "Putting the Public back in Public Relations" is the main text for the Social Media Course at University of Victoria, Canada. He is a pretty well known author in Social Media/PR circles so you would expect some sort of biography entry on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.100.16.219 (talk) 22:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete and also take a good look at the articles for his books, which I rather doubt achieve notability. (We can't assume that since those articles exist, the books are notable. A quick glance suggests they are not.) I agree with nom, the cites here are nearly all blogs or blog-like online sources. If those were removed (as they should be) there would be zero content in this article. Note that this article was created in 2008, so it pre-dates the book articles, and the presence of the book articles is not an argument to keep this page. LaMona (talk) 22:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
  1. Adamson, Deborah (1994-08-03). "Taking A Page From Reality - Pierce Student Targets Young With Magazine". Los Angeles Daily News. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     The article notes:

  2. "Solis: un gurú de los nuevos medios". El Comercio. 2011-12-08. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     The article notes:

  3. Macale, Sherilynn (2011-10-18). "Brian Solis on his new book, The End of Business as Usual [Interview]". The Next Web. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     The article notes:

     Per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 177#The Next Web, The Next Web passes Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources.
  4. Mance, Henry (2011-12-07). "A mangled guide to surviving digital Darwinism". Financial Times. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     This is a review of Brian Solis' book The End of Business as Usual: Rewire the Way You Work to Succeed in the Consumer Revolution.

  5. Dempster, Ann (2012-02-23). "The End of Business as Usual". Financial Adviser. Financial Times. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

     This is another review of Brian Solis' book The End of Business as Usual: Rewire the Way You Work to Succeed in the Consumer Revolution.

  6. Shah, Rawn (2013-03-08). "Review: Brian Solis's '[What's The Future] Of Business'". Forbes. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     This is a review of Brian Solis' book What's the Future of Business: Changing the Way Businesses Create Experiences.

  7. Cameron, Mark (2014-02-14). "Social media prophet Brian Solis on what post-digital people want". BRW. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

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  8. Asghar, Rob (2013-08-12). "Building A Truly Social Business: A Conversation With Brian Solis". Forbes. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

     The article notes:

  9. Schawbel, Dan (2013-03-14). "Brian Solis: The Future of Business is Shared Experiences". Forbes. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

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  10. Mueller, MP (2010-09-02). "Social Media Are Easier Than You Think". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2014-12-30. Retrieved 2014-12-30.

      The article notes:

  There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Brian Solis to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

  Cunard (talk) 06:24, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep In addition to sources in article and listed above, per AUTHOR he has book reviews, too many to list here but some can be seen in the EbscoHost database here. -- GreenC 15:32, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Stub: The sources provided above are not really in-depth biographical profiles where Mr. Solis is the subject of the article that could support a lengthy profile, but I think there is enough source material to suggest some notability. Someone could author a high quality two paragraph stub and for now a little cleanup would take care of the problem with blog sources, promotion, etc. CorporateM (Talk) 18:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: CorporateM is the nominator so I assume you are withdrawing this AfD? "Stub" is a defacto vote for Keep. Content issues should be worked out on the talk page. AfD is to determine Keep or Delete the topic (red vs blue link), not the content of the article. Sometimes people will agree to do something in AfD but it's irregular. -- GreenC 18:55, 30 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per sources presented by Cunard. Passes GNG. Content issues can be worked out. -- Calidum 06:07, 31 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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