Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cedel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Clearstream. Agreement that notability is met, but that, at least in the current circumstances, it is an unwarranted CONTENTFORK (non-admin closure) Nosebagbear (talk) 21:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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@BoogieWithStu: Incompetent deprod by Andrew Davidson. Original prod reason by BoogieWithStu still stands. Company fails WP:NCORP and is unsourced. » Shadowowl | talk 13:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Luxembourg-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:22, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finance-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:23, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Clearstream. While there are some sources on Cedel as an independent entity (see here, here, and here), it can be easily treated in the history section of the Clearstream page. PohranicniStraze (talk) 16:32, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The topic is clearly notable, being documented in detail in sources such as the following. Andrew D. (talk) 22:05, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

1. Bank & Brokerage Back Office Procedures & Settlements
2. Plumbers and Visionaries: Securities Settlement and Europe's Financial Market
3. ISSA Handbook
4. Bonds without Borders: A History of the Eurobond Market
5. A history of the Eurobond market: the first 21 years
6. Securities Operations: A Guide to Operations and Information Systems in the Securities Industry
7. Cross-Border Securities: Repo, Lending and Collateralisation
8. New York Times

• Delete or Redirect it's still unsourced and it's still not notable. BoogieWithStu (talk) 16:28, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Clearstream. I agree the subject is clearly notable. However, as our Clearstream article clearly states in the beginning of its history --Clearstream was founded as "Cedel" (Centrale de Livraison de Valeurs Mobilières) in September 1970 by 66 of the world's major financial institutions as a clearing organisation whose objective was to minimise risk in the settlement of cross-border securities trading, particularly in the growing Eurobond market.[6]. In as much as someone develops an article on the pre-2000-2 period separately from Clearstream - then perhaps a standalone article is possible, however the current one-line stub (which factually conflicts Clearstream#History which is sourced (1970 vs. 1971, number of banks)) - is not that article. Icewhiz (talk) 12:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect as per Icewhiz's reasoning above. Topic is clearly notable as per Andrew Davidson's listed sources above. HighKing⁺⁺ 14:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.