Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chos3n

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  09:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC) How do we request a deletion review — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.178.225 (talk) 19:26, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Unnotable musical group. Also, this article was created by the group itself, which has since been indeffed, and therefore this article has conflict of interest issues. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Everymorning (talk) 17:23, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep - the band has won and had independent coverage of their win of the Urban Music Awards [1] which appear to be on a par with the Choice Music Prize or Grammis award which are listed as qualifications at WP:NBAND. Not at all happy with the run around AfC COI promotional editing, but on a overall view we keep stuff of interest to whiteboy geeks on much less-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:29, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete for now at best and draft and userfy again if needed as I was actually one of the reviewers who made this unsuccessful as there simply enough sources and I'm simply not seeing anything else convincing. Notifying past reviewer Huon and also taggers Eteethan and Safiel in case they have input and aren't aware of this AfD nomination. SwisterTwister talk 05:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

keep Upon writing the original article which had absolutely no reference to the 'Chos3n' Band website or promotional or sales information - and having copied the page format for artists of the same achievements wiki format, we felt that this article would suffice given we had been nominated for two major UK music awards.

whilst Wikipedia seems to be comfortable with it's issue with Systemic Bias, ( I note the person most offended by the 'Chos3n'post is in dallas so therefore in probability has little knowledge of the UK Music Scene) - I am not comfortable with it's systemic Bias - could I therefore ask that the editor(s) who have any decision making on the page proposed deletion have some relative knowledge in the music industry outside of the U.S. or other interest in Urban music . I am glad that Wikipedia hires editors such as TheRedPenOfDoom who are a little more studied in Cultural diversity

[[User talk:Chos3n|< — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.67.187 (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

81.140.67.187 (talk · contribs) has only contributed to the article(s) under discussion for deletion and AFD. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 04:14, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Draft or weak keep: I checked the band's website where there is a biography section. Maybe the creator of this article can consider on improving the article with info from that section. Otherwise maybe consider deleting and drafting the article. Vincent60030 (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Fails notability guidelines. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 04:17, 6 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: Hard to work out where I stand here; this article in its present form is clearly inadequate, but otoh I strongly agree with The Red Pen of Doom about a broader bias here (c.f. the article about a German-only Marillion 3-track single, which is more than a comparable Loose Ends release would be likely to get and also more than a lot of important songs in German-language pop music get). RobinCarmody (talk) 03:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(music)#Criteria_for_musicians_and_ensembles

either Mobo and Urban music awards are considered major awards or they are not. Criteria for musicians and ensembles: Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. Can I suggest that if Mobo or UMA are not Major awards they would not have been allowed a page on your site. (Juliette Farrell - Chos3n) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.67.187 (talk) 12:58, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Fails WP:NMUSIC and clearly doesn't pass GNG. The comment above about having a wikipage denoting whether an award is notable or not shows the individual clearly does not have a good grasp of what notability is on Wikipedia. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 12:45, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: It fails WP:NMUSIC. I copied it to Wikinfo so a copy of the article can still be found after deletion. -- stranger195 (talk • contribs • guestbook) 07:33, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.