Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Simpson (2nd nomination)
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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:16, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
Christian Simpson
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This page was discussed at length in the article's last deletion nomination where it was ultimately decided that it would be deleted due to the subject not meeting notibility criteria. All of my previous arguments still apply. While the actor has many imdb credits, most are for small, uncredited roles. Other references include a blog written by the actor and a site noting that he provided "additional voices" for the newest Star Wars film. He is no more notable than he was the last time the article was deleted. --TorsodogTalk 03:17, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete He acted as a double to a leading character in one film, and was an extremely minor character in another film. This is basically a good assesment of his acting overall, just plain not notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:12, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Uanfala (talk) 23:14, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
- Keep He has acted in several films, and works as a composer and a writer. Multiple reliable sources are used in the article. The article should be expanded, not wiped from existence. I am upset that I wasn't notified of this deletion request on my talk page or by any other means. I had to visit the article itself to see that a complaint was made. Page creators should be made aware when their pages are nominated to be deleted. --ColouredFrames (talk) 15:51, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just because he works as an actor, composer and a writer doesn't make him notable enough for Wikipedia. Thousands of people do both of those things and they aren't included in Wikipedia. All of the reliable sources cited are in reference to his Star Wars (Episodes 1 and 3) career... yet according to IMDb he is uncredited in both of the films. Where exactly does the notability of this actor come from? --TorsodogTalk 19:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- As far as I've read in the guidelines for movie/actor articles, Imdb is not necessarily a reliable source and shouldn't be a nail in a coffin as to whether an article is deleted or not. Simpson's notability comes from his involvement in several movie series, and he is an official writer for the Star Wars website; Star Wars is an extremely notable property. I have added a citation in the article to the website for the Midwest Comic Con, which describes Simpson as having "notably portrayed...Lieutenant Gavyn Sykes in the #1 PG movie of all time". --ColouredFrames (talk) 12:59, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Just because he works as an actor, composer and a writer doesn't make him notable enough for Wikipedia. Thousands of people do both of those things and they aren't included in Wikipedia. All of the reliable sources cited are in reference to his Star Wars (Episodes 1 and 3) career... yet according to IMDb he is uncredited in both of the films. Where exactly does the notability of this actor come from? --TorsodogTalk 19:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 01:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, three references to starwars.com are not exactly independent. For one they have an interest in generating content about the brand. Second he is apparently a writer for the same website. The blogspot references means less than nothing. So Comicon seems like all there is to go on here. From searches, it seems like a high school wrestler by the same name is probably more notable than this individual. TimothyJosephWood 13:06, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- But high school wrestlers haven't been in the Star Wars, Harry Potter, AND Dark Knight franchises. And by the way, the "blogspot references", even though there's only one, may be questionable, but it does not mean less than nothing. --ColouredFrames (talk) 17:50, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of any significant notability. No doubt an excellent bit-part actor, stunt double and voice over artists in many films - but still not notable Velella Velella Talk 17:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, seeing as he hasn't held a significant role. And, on top of that, I can't even properly verify most of these bit roles. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 02:12, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
- Delete; seems like he has a lot of roles, but an IMDb page, a not quite verifiable blog, and a Comic-Con website aren't enough to establish notability. At the moment, there just aren't enough reliable sources. -- Matthew - (talk · userpage · contributions) 21:30, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
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