Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Dimitri (2 nomination)
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The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article and no support for Deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
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Dubious notablity. The previous Afd claimed "good sources" which were subsequently refbombed to the article. I reviewed them (and some others) and see nothing but short blurbs in run-off-the-mill reviews of some circus performances and no significant coverage of the person in depth. --Altenmann >talk 23:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
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Of varying length, they involve the men and women of Les Colporteurs, notably David Dimitri with some nimble, acrobatic tightrope work, in feats of balance, swinging and twirling on ropes, being manipulated like a marionette, flying on a trapeze, clowning and juggling.
During celebratory cocktails, they turned their gaze to the Zurich-based tightrope walker David Dimitri (son of the Swiss national treasure Dimitri the Clown) as he traversed a nearly invisible wire a perilous 20 feet above the backyard pond.
Among the daredevils are David Dimitri, the Big Apple's Juilliard-trained Lord of the Wire, who dances to Celtic strains and skips rope on the high wire;
Stylistic sympathy notwithstanding, Dimitri had another reason for performing with the Big Apple this year: his 22-year-old son, David, is a member of the troupe. David Dimitri has been performing with circuses since he was 7 years old, when his partner was a llama. Now in his fourth season with the Big Apple Circus, he is thrilled to be on the same bill with his father - but as a name in his own right. I grew up with this image of my dad being very well known in Europe, David Dimitri says. It makes me very happy to be a known, solo performer here, but in the same show with him. It's my own achievement. |
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Entertainment, and Switzerland. Shellwood (talk) 00:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I don't know a lot about this kind of thing, but there are a lot of hits on Swiss newspaper archives [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] some more significant than others. A few look pretty OK, but some are reviews of his performances. If not notable, ATD merge to his father, Dimitri (clown), who is notable. There are more but searching Scriptorium is a nightmare. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, there are plenty of hits, because he did plenty of performances. But we need in-depth coverage and the article was not at all improved since its first nomination, hence it exhausted its "presumption of notability" and must go. --Altenmann >talk 23:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well if the sourcing isn't good enough that's one thing but as far as I'm aware there isn't a set number of AfDs that make WP:NEXIST not apply. There are a lot of listings but there are some sources that seem to be sigcov on the man. So I am unsure. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, there are plenty of hits, because he did plenty of performances. But we need in-depth coverage and the article was not at all improved since its first nomination, hence it exhausted its "presumption of notability" and must go. --Altenmann >talk 23:49, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Beeblebrox Beebletalks 22:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep The sources found by PARAKANYAA show WP:SUSTAINED WP:SIGCOV of him and his performances. I would say he meets WP:GNG, WP:ENTERTAINER and WP:CREATIVE. He is a performer, so reviews of his performances are what we want. I don't think "the article was not at all improved since its first nomination, hence it exhausted its "presumption of notability" and must go" is a valid deletion argument - as WP:GNG states, "Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article." There clearly are sources, it's not that no one has been able to produce any. This is one of many, many WP articles which could be improved. RebeccaGreen (talk) 06:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:15, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: Passes Wp:GNG and Wp:ANYBIO. But the article requires improvement. Zuck28 (talk) 23:26, 25 January 2025 (UTC)
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