Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Pledger

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The result was keep. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 03:01, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

David Pledger

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Subject fails notability guidelines per WP:CREATIVE. The page mainly seems like an extended CV or LinkedIn page. (see: WP:RESUME. KidAd (talk) 23:31, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:21, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 07:22, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Agree with ~~Shellwood~~KidAd's original nomination but I have since made significant edits including the removal of promotional/CV-type content and the addition of WP:IRS citations. As a result I think this article can be kept following WP:HEY. The subject of the page is widely recognised as a notable figure in the performing arts and is the subject of several WP:IRS articles. Cabrils (talk) 05:32, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Cabrils: I didn't nominate the article, I was merely doing some deletion sorting. And for the record I have no opinion about whether the article should be kept or not. Shellwood (talk) 14:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Shellwood: Apologies Shellwood-- have corrected my comment. Cabrils (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arts-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Theatre-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 11:24, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - stub article but he meets GNG for various awards, etc. and has reliable sources. Bookscale (talk) 11:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Bookscale, other than the non-notable Kenneth Myer Medallion for the Performing Arts, which awards has Pledger won? His own website mentions that "David is the recipient of numerous career awards," but doesn't list any. Vexations (talk) 12:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I may have to amend my vote as the article has been essentially decimated since I nominated it the other day. Either way, the stub is is so anemic that it illustrates how non-notable the subject it. KidAd (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@KidAd: I made a further search and was able to add one more award. Your point carries weight but I would still be inclined to keep the article. Cabrils (talk) 01:58, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Soft Keep I don't know if awards are really a definitive sign of notability, but there are at least enough sources out there to keep me from outright voting to delete this one. Unfortunately, it's hard to see what the sources currently on the page actually say because there are no links. But, I'm erring on the side of good faith, here. Gargleafg (talk) 02:24, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I have started adding links to the sources (or moving them from External links to sources) (Gargleafg, you may like to take a look). Whether the awards are notable or not, they resulted in newspaper profiles about him. There are also reviews of his work, some currently in External links - if information about the performances was previously in the article, it's not now, and will have to be added. The article doesn't even name the performance group he founded. I would point out to KidAd that, per WP:ARTN, "Article content does not determine notability". Also, per WP:NEXIST, "The absence of sources or citations in an article (as distinct from the non-existence of sources) does not indicate that a subject is not notable." Cabrils has added more sources, and more can be added, with more information from them about his performances. He meets WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks RebeccaGreen. Cabrils (talk) 23:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per WP:HEY. Passes WP:CREATIVE and WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 01:04, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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