Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deranged Trump Syndrome

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Deranged Trump Syndrome

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Perhaps this deserves to be speedy deleted as a G10 attack page, but in any case, a neologism raised by someone in an op-ed, and hardly used in that sense since then, doesn't deserve an article, no matter how you feel about the truth or lack of it behind it. Fram (talk) 08:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politics and United States of America. Fram (talk) 08:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Only one of the references uses the term "Deranged Trump Syndrome" from an op-ed piece written on 12 October 2023, insufficient time to enter common vernacular. Hughesdarren (talk) 10:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: It's been used since 2018 [1], then recently [2], ~~[3]~~ . Oaktree b (talk) 12:08, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Click on the Gnews link above, there are good sources in the first few that pop up. Oaktree b (talk) 12:10, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Your very first link[4] has the exact opposite meaning from the one in the article we are debating, and is instead describing the Trump derangement syndrome. And your third link[5] doesn't even contain the word "deranged" or a variation thereof apparently... Fram (talk) 12:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what happened with the last link. Ignore it. The first uses a different meaning of the term, which can be included in the article to show, other meanings of the term I suppose. Here are more [6], [7], [8]. Last one from Wall Street Journal is an opinion piece, but proof of usage of the term. Oaktree b (talk) 13:33, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

//All opinion pieces except the last one, which is a letter to the paper (if I see it correctly), and your sources 2 and 5 are the same text (or at the very least from the same writer, I can't completely access the second one). So far, all we have is some opinion pieces using a term, no reliable, independent sources about the term. To introduce slurs against someone as encyclopedic content we need better sources than this. Fram (talk) 13:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and Salt - This is a serious violation of WP:BLPPUBLIC. "Deranged Trump Syndrome" presumes he is mentally unbalanced, with no supporting diagnosis or evidence. Unlike Trump derangement syndrome, a pejorative term which refers to a long-time pattern of specific behavior. Deranged Trump Syndrome violates Wikipedia policy, and presents no facts to support the allegation. — Maile (talk) 14:05, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It's not G10 given the SIGCOV, but most of them are either op-eds or routine coverage about Trump derangement syndrome, thus fails GNG. Conyo14 (talk) 17:35, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Accurate or not, calling a former president deranged requires substantially better sources. ~ Argenti Aertheri^(Chat?) 04:29, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep This is a neologism that everyone needs to learn about. Plus, it gained national coverage as it is related to government. Just in fact that this will be popular in next other year. --205.155.225.253 (talk) 15:53, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This does not fit the criteria for a speedy keep. Conyo14 (talk) 23:51, 17 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.