Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dominik Solák (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Aoidh (talk) 03:36, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dominik Solák

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Another contested redirect - zero in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show notability. Fails WP:GNG. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 10:33, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:46, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Czech Republic-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:46, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Handball-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 10:47, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Solák has represented his country on a national level since 2018, see [1]. Anyone reading Czech could find in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources here (iDNES.cz, Deník etc.). Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 11:56, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 11:38, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I updated statistics of his representative career and they say that he is a notable player within the country. FromCzech (talk) 07:35, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. All I'm finding in idnes.cz are passing mentions and routine match recap-style interviews (per NSPORT/NOTNEWS, coverage in routine match recaps does not contribute to notability, and anything repeating what the subject says is not independent or secondary) with little independent commentary, e.g. [2][3][4][5]. Same with denik.cz: [6][7]. JoelleJay (talk) 12:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Restore redirect per nominating comment on the first AFD and per JoelleJay's source analysis. Willing to reconsider if better coverage is made available, so please ping me. Frank Anchor 16:45, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in concurrence with JoelleJay. Reading them, a lot are not more than passing mentions. (an interview tho.) Having search results be populated with so many sports databases indicates to me that they aren't notable. SWinxy (talk) 00:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 11:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I can't find any specific notability criteria for handball players, but I don't consider handball totally insignificant sport, at least in the context of Europe. I can't imagine an AfD for a football player who plays five years in a national team. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I was thinking exactly what Vejvančický was going to write a moment before me. It is irrelevant to judge the notability of athletes according to how their biography is analyzed in secondary sources and not according to what sports achievements and merits they have. If I remember correctly, the criteria for footballers is that they only need to have one match in the top league to deserve a wiki page. If I look at football players or other handball players, most of their pages would have to be deleted. FromCzech (talk) 09:48, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If I look at football players or other handball players, most of their pages would have to be deleted. Yes. They should. SWinxy (talk) 14:53, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@FromCzech, the criteria for footballers was removed following the WP:NSPORTS2022 global RfC, which resulted in the elimination of all participation-based criteria and reaffirmed the requirement that all subjects meet GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 03:13, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Then someone should fix WP:FOOTYN, as it doesn't reflect what you say, User:JoelleJay. Nobody touched the page since closing that RfC in March 2022. The RfC is quite a mess. You seem to have a strong opinion on this - you participated a lot over there. But I digress. Solák is one of the top Czech handball players, one of the leaders of HCB Karviná, 2022 Czech Handball Extraliga (the top competition in the country) winner. He was the first star at least in one of the last year's final extraliga matches against Plzeň.[8] He is a member of the senior men's Czech national handball team and represented his country on international level since 2018. All easily verifiable. There is an interview with him in the Mladá fronta DNES, one of the largest Czech newspapers. Another one at the official website of the Czech Handball Association. He is not a newbie, not a starlet in an insignificant sport. What is the benefit for Wikipedia in deleting this kind of sports bio??? Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
FOOTYN is a wikiproject essay, it never had any legitimacy in AfDs. NFOOTY was the former guideline. What is the benefit of having a database entry as an article? JoelleJay (talk) 21:01, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per JoelleJay and per no !keep voter being able to find GNG-compliant sources. BilledMammal (talk) 23:44, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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