Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council

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The result was no consensus. with default to keep J04n(talk page) 19:31, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Another new boxing organization. The only reference is to its own home page. I don't know why this article contains a list of another organization's champions--unless the organization just figured using someone else's champions is easier than creating their own.Mdtemp (talk) 18:17, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep - Searching google news comes up with plenty of articles from reliable sources covering people winning this championship. That looks like notability to me, although it might smell of the inheritability argument (hence "weak"). Obviously, it would need major cleanup, reduction down to a stub, and then re-expansion with relevant information. Fieari (talk) 23:38, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm upgrading my !vote from weak keep to keep. Improvements have been made to the article, it's sourced sufficiently for me, and I'm now convinced notability has been established. Fieari (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Which championship is that. I don't see a connection between the Championship listed and the organisation.Peter Rehse (talk) 08:42, 26 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just going to copy and paste the items that show up in google news, not even clicking into the articles, straight from the leading sentences:

• • "He fought for the WBC Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council Light Heavyweight title in February but was stopped by German Serdar Sahin, and his ..."
  • "... battle for both the WBC Asian Boxing Council featherweight title and WBC Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council featherweight title held last May 8, ..."
  • "... featherweight title and WBC Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council featherweight title held last May 8, 2015 at Expo Garden Hotel in Kunming, China ..."
  • "Francisco and Suzuki will vie for the vacant WBC Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council bantamweight title in their 12-round battle. The 24-year-old ..."
  • "Davor wird auch das Titel-Duell zwischen Serdar Sahin („WBC Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council Light Heavyweight Title“) und Konstantin ..."

And so on, and so on. It actually goes on for 5 pages of these sorts of results. This is to say, again, I'm not finding articles about the organization per se, but there are plenty of articles about the winners and challengers to those winners. Fieari (talk) 02:13, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So I am assuming that listing the Championships as OPBF is an error/typo??Peter Rehse (talk) 08:17, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Firstly I want to state as you all know I made this page. Secondly yes it was a typo which I have fixed. Thirdly I made this because PABA is set up very similarly with only reference of its own official website. This is a relatively new Boxing Organisation but it is part of the World Boxing Council which should make this notable, as well as ABC, OPBF and PABA with the WBA. Lastly I added some more citations to help it. Let me know if I should do anymore. --Bennyaha (talk) 01:36, 28 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds more like an argument to delete PABA's article than a reason for keeping this one (WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS). Papaursa (talk) 15:21, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• • Well, there's probably more that COULD be done, but what you HAVE done I think is sufficient for notability claims. I've upgraded my vote above. Thank you for your cleanups. Fieari (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I noticed this organization is not listed among the 9 "continental federations" at the WBC website [1]. Funny, I didn't even know there were 9 continents. It's no wonder there are some many boxing titles. Are there any independent sources that talk about this organization besides saying "X fought Y for the EPBC title"? That seems more like passing mentions and/or routine sports coverage. Papaursa (talk) 15:21, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• EPBC is fairly new but WBC do recognize in the rankings when one person holds the title for example Firat Arslan Cruiserweight ranking --Bennyaha (talk) 23:17, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I just read a statement from WBC regarding EPBC. "Eurasia Pacific Boxing Council is not a WBC Federation. It is only a committee affiliated with the WBC, ..." [2] it goes on to say "Any request for a new federation or commission to affiliate to the WBC is a matter that must be addressed by the WBC Board of Governors in the annual conventions of the WBC." --Bennyaha (talk) 23:37, 30 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Question Has anyone actually posted a link to an independent reference that gives significant coverage to this organization? Everything seemed to be a passing mention and/or routine sports coverage. Notability isn't inherited from being a committee connected to the WBC. Perhaps a redirect to the WBC might be in order. Papaursa (talk) 18:14, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • here is two search results in WBC that talk about EPBC and as you can see there are over 50 results if you combine the two: WBC EPBC Search Results WBC Eurasia Pacifc Search Results. This is a more specific article that says EPBC is affiliated with WBCMBC is not Affiliated. In google here is 203 results Google results WBC EPBC and here is 118 more articles in google Google Search Results WBC Eurasia Boxing Council --Bennyaha (talk) 23:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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