Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evolution of human altruism

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. deleteing since the editor has taken a copy. ping me if you need the history Spartaz ^Humbug! 11:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Evolution of human altruism

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WP:NOTESSAY. WP:SYNTHESIS. A similar page created by this user, THE EVOLUTION OF HUMAN ALTRUISM, was speedied as A7 in April. Natg 19 (talk) 23:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging User:RHaworth, who speedied the previous version of this page.

Hey guys, this article was an assignment for this class:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ed_Hagen/Anth_562

The author is a graduate student in Anthropology. He is an Ethiopian, and English is a second language. It would be nice if his work could contribute to Wikipedia in some way. None of us are wikipedia experts, to say the least. But we've tried to do things the right way.

Thanks User:Ed_Hagen — Preceding undated comment added 02:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Since it was a student assignment it may be worthwhile to userfy the data if he's still active on here and is interested in trying to clean this up to meet guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:31, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy; invite this editor to spend some time working on other articles, so that he can get a feel for what should go into this one. It is a legitimate topic. bd2412 T 14:54, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This is a poor article in its current state, but the topic is valid and the text contains enough useful material to form a starting point for a better article. Looie496 (talk) 15:20, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I copied the article to my sandbox:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ed_Hagen/sandbox

The author is editing it there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed Hagen (talk • contribs) 15:38, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete the article, and hope that the sandbox version can be brought to an acceptable state. Maproom (talk) 17:24, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Userfy for improvement, suggest resubmission through Afc or at least peer review. Note: Looking at some of the article drafts listed at the course page, we may run into similar discussions regarding essay-like tones or original synthesis, or at the very least be subject to a substantial amount of redundant content, unless some changes are made. I hope User:Ed Hagen and his students are familiar with the guidelines and expectations of Wikipedia:Student assignments, as collegiate and scholarly writing (e.g. a research paper) does not always align with the policies and guidelines of an encyclopedia, and not all sub-topics may warrant stand-alone articles. --Animalparty-- (talk) 18:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy (effectively delete since it's been copied to a sandbox already) or Merge to Evolution of morality or Altruism. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @Mesganaw Andualem: I know it's easy to be discouraged by a nomination for deletion, but try to remember that this doesn't mean you aren't doing good work or that your work isn't welcome here -- it's just a matter of modifying the work to fit with Wikipedia policies. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:01, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - @Ed Hagen: Thanks for including a Wikipedia assignment in your class. Are you familiar with the Wiki Education Foundation? It's a non-profit organization that supports instructors who work with Wikipedia in class. I'll leave a message on your user talk page with some additional information (I work for them, so the message will come from my "official" account, Ryan (Wiki Ed)) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:03, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I see no reason for deleting it in the current state - it looks relatively acceptable now. It surely needs improvement but it's nothing that can't stay up as a Start-class article. Also I was really astonished how this article apparently didn't already exist up until now (also note that empathy, morality and altruism are all interconnected, yet they shouldn't be lumped together). --Fixuture (talk) 22:41, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just some further explanation on why I voted for keeping it: I think it's the characteristic of Wikipedia to not bring the burden of an article upon a single person - it's meant to combine the knowledge & skills of many. So if there are too high standards for article-entries they won't get into the mainspace and hence won't get the chance (or at least that chance is way lower) to get improved by others. I think an "under construction"-box (or something alike) on top of the page would be a better solution. --Fixuture (talk) 19:27, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a solution: if an article has not been edited for 7 days, a bot will remove an under construction tag as "stale", and rightly so. "Under construction" is meant to be temporary, when someone is actively modifying an article. --Randykitty (talk) 19:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well that was just an example (secondary to my main point). If a box on top of the page is used then maybe there's also another fitting one for it(?). Another suggestion would be to contact the relevant WikiProject (WP:WikiProject Evolutionary biology) (and eventually users that made significant contributions to related articles) and ask them to help out with the article.--Fixuture (talk) 21:16, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Userfy. Reads like a school essay, not an encyclopedic article. --Randykitty (talk) 07:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.