Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fabric sound evaluation system

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fabric sound evaluation system (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

(Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)

Zero independent sources indicating notability of this "system" for sound evaluation of fabric. (Whether sources exist about fabric sounds in general is another animal.) The other sources mostly predate the publication of this specific system, so they cannot possibly have been written about it. The 2007 source does not cite the paper, so it is unlikely that it discusses the system in any detail. Nothing else found on a search.

All aside from that, in its present form, this exists as a summary of a research paper, which is probably a copyright issue. So at best even if sources were located to indicate that the idea is notable, it still needs WP:TNT. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:19, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 09:19, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• comment The subject of fabric noisiness is a serious concern in some areas. Think of the extreme winter gear armed forces use. Those specialist fabrics, everything proof using technical membranes a la "Gore-Tex" are all well and good, but they are astonishingly noisy, to the extent that the difference between different armed forces response to the same problem, noisewise, can be astonishing. Thus, the problem is real, but this study is a Primary attempt to quantify the noise issue reproduceably, and on that basis, not yet notable. This paper appears to try to cover the wider consumer related issues of fabric related noise. Sources like Booth are excellent, and Kawabata 'wrote the book' on assessment of drape and hand, but this topic is probably not mature enough yet, so I'm leaning to delete. I'd love to see the paper though. -Roxy the dog 10:14, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Yeah, I want to be clear I'm not disputing the notability of the concept of "fabric sounds" or even "scientific evaluation of fabric sounds", but specifically this system for doing so. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:29, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  This was clear to me, thanks though. Delete as the paper is a primary source if used as a source. -Roxy the dog 14:15, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom. An article on the sound of fabric would be very welcome but this is not it. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 21:11, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.