Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/False Mirror (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. Tough call, but with no verification from 3rd party, no one willing or able to view hard copy, no one voting to actually keep, WP:V trumps, and we delete. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:41, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Promotional page for a non notable artist. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Albums not on important label. Existing refs are False Mirrors own page, a webzine and two about some software he uses that don't mention him. duffbeerforme (talk) 10:52, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• coment I know this area a bit and I'm not even finding much in the way of unreliable sources, let alone reliable ones. But as the previous AFD claims "The artist/band has been featured and reviewed in some major print magazines here in Germany (Orkus, Sonic Seducer, Zillo), which I see as a criterion for "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable and are independent from the musician or ensemble itself.". However I have problems to refer to these articles - they are not available online (however some of them can be found on the artist's webpage), so I left them out and I therefore only referred to one online review as an example." I don't in general have a problem using the artist's site as evidence of these articles in this sort of case, they're unlikely to have lied about it. It's a big problem sourcing industrial band articles that, apart from all the sources for notability likely being in German (which is fine), they're likely on paper and hard to trace and source. (Also that there's no good online verification for DAC entries, which establish prima facie notability handily, though pretty sure False Mirror's never hit the DAC.) - David Gerard (talk) 09:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 15:28, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 08:15, 10 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:45, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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