Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fecto Group of Industries

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus defaulting to keep, following Ritchie333's relist suggestion. Some believe the sources are enough to pass, but others don't, and it doesn't seem like any significant new sources were brought up after the relist. ansh666 20:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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No in-depth coverage found. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. Greenbörg (talk) 07:54, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 09:41, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 09:41, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep after reading through Ntr~enwiki (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) edit history it seems this page may be the main one for this organization. Nobody related to Pakistan appears to be around to answer. The organization as a whole may be notable, the sub-pages aren't. Fecto Sugar Mills Limited and the rest are Delete. Keep this unless somebody shows up. Power~enwiki (π, ν) 05:42, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This article was unreferenced since March 2007. I went ahead and redid the article with 4 new references including 2 major newspapers. Also added 2 external links and 2 categories. Sorry I was a little late in coming here and writing a little note after editing the article. As you can read in the above note, Power~enwiki later has reviewed the article after my edit. Fecto Group of Industries (established in 1952), in my view, is definitely a notable organization based in Karachi, Pakistan.Ngrewal1 (talk) 00:25, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Ngrewal and Power~enwiki. Mar4d (talk) 12:49, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As of the rewrite, none of the provided references meets the criteria for establishing notability and are either company material (PRIMARY source), company announcements (fails WP:ORGIND) or interviews with company officers with no independent opinion or analysis (fails WP:CORPDEPTH and/or WP:ORGIND). The BusinessRecorder article does not attribute a journalist and therefore fails as a reliable source. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 11:57, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I agree with the HK that group still fails WP:CORPDEPTH and keep comments are just saying keep not following WP:RS. Thanks, Greenbörg (talk) 07:29, 22 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Sorry but i have to agree with HK here, fails GNG and Corpdepth. Any ATDs? L3X1 (distænt write) 02:12, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• There would appear to be quite a few sources confirming that this is a major company in Pakistan found in these books and these scholarly papers. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:37, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Posting the results of Google searches doesn't help. Please post specific references. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 12:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete -- a WP:Promo page on an unremarkable business. Ad copy includes an entire section on "An engine of national economic growth", etc. No sources listed to meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Such content belongs on the org's web site, not here. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• No sources were listed because they were removed at 1500 on 30 September.  I have restored them.  Unscintillating (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep  The group has an international profile, not just from its history predating the split of India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan, but in business relationships with Belarus and China.  It is composed of several individual companies, some private and some which are publicly quoted, which by itself is generally considered to be sufficient evidence to establish Wikipedia notability.  As per this in-depth report focusing on Fecto Cement (FECTC) from Business Recorder (which as per our article "is the biggest financial daily in Pakistan"), "International markets have recently become tough particularly Afghanistan-which is now getting its cement cheap from Iran-and the entire sector has been affected."  As per the snippet for Fecto Cement from www.fectogroup.com/wp-content/uploads/.../Fecto-March-2017.pdf, "Exports to Afghanistan are expected to further reduce due to influx of Iranian..." Unscintillating (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.