Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gene Pool (software)
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The result was delete. Complex/Rational 21:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Gene Pool (software)
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Fails WP: N -- I can't find any sources that would establish notability. The creator of the article dePRODed this without any sourcing improvements. HyperAccelerated (talk) 21:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are sources which I assume are not independent? Does not look "uncontroversial", so dePROD was justified. IgelRM (talk) 08:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sources 1-5 are primary -- they're from the creator of the software. Sources 6 and 7 just mention the software, which isn't sufficient to establish notability. The dePROD was not at all justified, but that's not what we're here to discuss. HyperAccelerated (talk) 12:49, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I agree, the current references for the current article are primary sources that do not have online copies. There are no other independent, reliable sources that can be found online. Prof.PMarini (talk) 08:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fascinating perhaps but not notable. A search in Google Books yielded results that at first glance could have proved interesting; on closer inspection they are all examples of the author describing his own work. No reliable secondary sources. Fails WP:GNG. GhostOfNoMeme 22:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also find it eyebrow-raising that the same editor who created this article created the article for Nuala Creed, the spouse of Jeffrey Ventrella, Gene Pool's creator. The same editor is also working on Draft:Virtual Body Language, another project of Jeffrey Ventrella's. This editor was almost completely dormant since 2017 and suddenly became active this year to work solely on articles related to Ventrella, and to insert links to these articles in other pages. Considering the linked website for Gene Pool is promoting NFTs, I have to wonder if there are shenanigans afoot. Of course, I could be wrong, and I don't want to accuse anyone unfairly – but it seems awfully suspicious to me. Perhaps there are conflicts of interest to declare? GhostOfNoMeme 22:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I already asked the article's creator if they have a COI to declare but didn't receive a response. HyperAccelerated (talk) 04:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I hadn't noticed your talk page message. Perhaps it's time to raise it on the conflict of interest noticeboard? GhostOfNoMeme 08:12, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I already asked the article's creator if they have a COI to declare but didn't receive a response. HyperAccelerated (talk) 04:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also find it eyebrow-raising that the same editor who created this article created the article for Nuala Creed, the spouse of Jeffrey Ventrella, Gene Pool's creator. The same editor is also working on Draft:Virtual Body Language, another project of Jeffrey Ventrella's. This editor was almost completely dormant since 2017 and suddenly became active this year to work solely on articles related to Ventrella, and to insert links to these articles in other pages. Considering the linked website for Gene Pool is promoting NFTs, I have to wonder if there are shenanigans afoot. Of course, I could be wrong, and I don't want to accuse anyone unfairly – but it seems awfully suspicious to me. Perhaps there are conflicts of interest to declare? GhostOfNoMeme 22:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. I ran out of time to delve deeper, but if there are any independent sources, they would either be citations to a book chapter by the author like this list or currently used sources. The two sources at the end of the article12 do look like independent mention, though at least based on the article text, it sounds pretty cursory. I'd be curious what the sources actually say though before deletion though. It seems like there could be potential for notability, but I think it's leaning towards delete unless it becomes clear something was missed in looking through sources. KoA (talk) 15:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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