Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Giovanni Giuffrè

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The result was delete. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 15:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Giovanni Giuffrè

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Composer whose article is not really stating, or reliably sourcing, any strong claim to notability per WP:NMUSIC. This consists entirely of purely biographical detail that has no bearing on notability at all, rather than any particular context for why he might be encyclopedically significant -- and the only source actually being cited at all is a PDF of the cover page, but not the core content, of a catalogue of his son's work, not his (which is not a source that demonstrates Giovanni's notability at all, because it isn't about Giovanni). As well, the article was created by an editor with the username "Giuffrépediaa", so this is most likely conflict of interest editing by a relative of his. I'm certainly willing to withdraw this if somebody with solid access to Greek or Italian archives of reliable sourcing can locate more substantive evidence of notability than is actually present here -- but as things currently stand, nothing stated in the article is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be much better referenced than this. Bearcat (talk) 19:30, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:10, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:10, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. Bakazaka (talk) 20:10, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Doesn't appear to meet WP:MUSICBIO, and I can't find significant reliable source coverage (or, really, any coverage) of him to meet WP:GNG. PohranicniStraze (talk) 04:25, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Per nomination. Seems that nothing can be found on him. The Greek name of him mentioned in the article (Γωαννις Γιογφρε) [1] makes no sense in Greek, it is not Greek; e.g. Giovanni (= John) in Greek is Ιωάννης, colloquially Γιάννης. ——Chalk19 (talk) 19:22, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

PS. According to the official list [2] of the Corfu Philharmonic bandleaders, there was someone called Ιωάννης Γομπές who was the leader of the band in 1923 (just that year), and who is also included in the list of its teachers [3] (no period is specified). Γομπές = Gobes is far way from (the anyway absurd) Γιογφρε, which was supposed to be Giovanni Giuffrè's Greek name. On the other hand, in the article it is written that Giuffrè/Γιογφρε "was a student, teacher and band leader with the Philharmonic Society of Corfu for approximately 7 years". Even if Γομπές was actually Giuffrè/Γιογφρε (meaning that he was a student, [and a] teacher for six years in total, and band leader with the Philharmonic for one more year?), I was unable to find anything else on him in Greek sources. So, since the person cannot realy be identified so far, and no sources can be found on him, the article is original research by its creator, probably a family member. ——Chalk19 (talk) 00:33, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete Maybe there's more about him in Greek sources, hence my qualifier. His son certainly seems to be notable enough, and it might be good to transfer some material to that article if this one gets deleted. Atchom (talk) 20:11, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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