Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/HSE Art and Design School

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The result was delete. MBisanz ^talk 23:13, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

HSE Art and Design School

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Importance? I am pretty sure we usually don't have standalone articles for faculties even for the top universities (e.g. Harvard) Openlydialectic (talk) 13:08, 20 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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If someone looks at the, e. g. Template:Harvard University, it would be totally clear that the argument of "don't have standalone articles for faculties even for the top universities (e.g. Harvard)" is totally false. As the nomination don't have extra arguments, the whole nomination is false as well. So speedy keep and give the nominator an instruction to not to spread information on Wikipedia that is so much false—Wikipedia is in favor of truth, not untrunth. --ssr (talk) 11:56, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- It is not very much clear what the nominator tries to do with his single word "Importance?". The article have enough content based on reliable sources, which are properly formatted and explained. And the article, with its sources, is being nominated just with one word "Importance?". This is not how Wikipedia is made. It's like I would say "User?", or "Nomination?", or "Contributions?"—almost no sense. --ssr (talk) 16:35, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note for administrator: ssr was the creator of this article. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:29, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This isn't a university. It's merely a school of another university. We don't usually have articles on these unless they're very well-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:12, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- So let's see Category:Moscow State University: many articles and a big subcategory called "Moscow State University faculty‎". So "don't usually have articles on faculties" is still not true. --ssr (talk) 14:08, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - And many of them should probably be deleted. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Have you actually looked at the faculty category? It doesn't include what you seem to think it does! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:58, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    - "Many of them should probably be deleted" is a totally wrong approach. If many people have created many Wikipedia articles then Wikipedia should handle this stuff not try to delete it. --ssr (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      - That's not how we work. That's not what our notability guidelines say. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:42, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        They say if a Category:University of London contains many faculties, and Category:Moscow State University contains many faculties, and Category:University of Paris contains many faculties—"many of them should probably be deleted" as a result of a single AfD nomination for a faculty? No, I won't believe that. I will better believe the nomination is wrong, and the argumentation for it is mistaken. --ssr (talk) 07:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Neither Category:University of London nor Category:University of Paris contain "many faculties". They contain a number of notable schools with sources proving their notability. They certainly do not contain every faculty or even most faculties of the universities in question. In general we do not keep articles on individual faculties unless they are extremely well-known and their notability can be proven by independent sourcing. This particular school is only five years old and is a non-notable school of the university. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Category:Harvard University schools and Category:Colleges and schools by university contain a lot. I doubt if notability for a faculty requires "many years". I suppose notability is established via sources. Usually a single WP:RS may be enough to establish notability for an article on *whatever*. Wikipedia has to cover topics notable via sources. Wikipedia itself should not measure "how many years" and "how extremely well-known a school is". --ssr (talk) 11:06, 25 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        Essentially that does equate to notability. And I'm not seeing any notability for this school. Simple as that. A university department is not notable simply for existing. -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This article fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP because its WP:ROUTINE or self-published sources do not constitute WP:SIGCOV proving notability. It's also an un-notable sub-school of a larger school, which doesn't just get to share notability. Newshunter12 (talk) 06:29, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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