Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Identity and change

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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 05:02, 9 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Identity and change

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Wholly unsourced and written like a personal essay. Explicitly raises questions and says things like "perhaps" to the reader rather than stating facts. Tagged as a mess for over two years, but was messy already long before that. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC) 23:14, 1 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as an essay composed of WP:OR. XOR'easter (talk) 00:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions. XOR'easter (talk) 00:00, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Utterly unsalvageable original research and novel synthesis in essay form. This should have been taken to AFD and axed long ago. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is one of a bunch of old essays/lectures by Larry Sanger (see User:Larry Sanger/Larry's Text) created in the ancient days before our standards for notability, referencing, etc. were defined. If an article at this title is needed (I tend to think it is covered in many related articles), it would be better to start from a blank slate. --RL0919 (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Problem of the criterion is a bit problematic, too. Maybe that's next. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It also reminded me of Interconnectivity and Interdependence, which I noticed during this AfD and then forgot about. XOR'easter (talk) 02:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. The current content is an original philosophical essay. Not a sourced encyclopedia article. The title is also an Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episode, so redirect it to that article or the List_of_Agents_of_S.H.I.E.L.D._episodes. Have a disambiguation page created if other uses are found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23mason (talk • contribs) 15:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since that redirect would have nothing to do with the history of the current page, the proper way to implement what you suggest would probably be to delete the current page and create a new redirect at the name. --RL0919 (talk) 15:20, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From the episode guide, it seems 2.3 is the point on the caring meter below which episode article generation becomes unviable. This episode was the first to reenter the apparent "cool zone", so if somebody wants to create a whole (sourced) synopsis, I wouldn't be (intrinsically) opposed to its existence here. A redirect is certainly easier, of course. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A redirect to the list wouldnt require the creation of a new article.--23mason (talk) 16:09, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.