Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KTFL (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:12, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable TV station that was only on air for 5-6 years. No sources. Was kept under previous looser notability standards. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 11:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and Arizona. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 11:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: This is definitely a remnant of the far lower inclusion standards in this topic area of 2006 — and that conclusion might apply as much (if not more) to the first nomination itself as it does to the actual article. (I probably should also note that the first nomination, which came very quickly after the article was created, came two months after the eventual final sign-off but a month or so before the license was canceled; there was an assumption that the station was merely converting to digital, but that turned out to be the type of peering into the crystal ball that Wikipedia does not do.) About the only truly-P&G based rationale given by anyone in that discussion (at least by 2025 standards) was by the then-nominator (since a 2021 RfC, we no longer assume automatic notability for licensed stations even in the absence of significant coverage). Normally I'd call for a redirect to List of television stations in Arizona#Defunct full-power stations where KTFL is listed (and happens to mention all that can, or even needs to be, said about this station), but the call sign has been reassigned to a new station in Washington state owned by Spokane Public Radio, which if their station list is any indication relays KSFC. That may merit a redirect in that direction that does not require retaining the Arizona station article's page history. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:21, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• It never got a single writeup in the Arizona Daily Sun. That's a bad sign. Delete and recreate as a redirect to KSFC, as the Kettle Falls WA facility is now in service. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Just to very much clear, yes, I'm gonna say Delete, but just because a station in Washington State could've (or did) mentioned the KTFL, doesn't mean we should transport it to ... that article. In fact the List of television stations in Arizona#Defunct full-power stations would work more than a mention in a article for Spokane Public Radio. (Just saying, the reasoning doesn't kinda work on me.) mer764KC / Cospaw⛲️ (He/Him | 💬Talk! • 📦Contributions) 23:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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