Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kaissar Broadcasting Network

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kaissar Broadcasting Network

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Contested PROD. No evidence of notability, and no apparent need for a standalone article on this network. CycloneYoris ^talk! 18:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Radio and Philippines. CycloneYoris ^talk! 18:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 21:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The network clearly failed WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The article's content was derived from government documents obtained through FOI requests from the Philippine government, which could constitute a violation of WP:NOR. Additionally, the article lacks secondary sources. Although Kaissar was previously a member of the Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (KBP), it no longer holds that status. However, KBP membership alone does not establish notability. ^{I endorsed the article's PROD for the relatively same reason} AstrooKai (Talk) 07:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Subject does not appear to meet the WP:NCORP due to a lack of coverage Let'srun (talk) 17:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Meets WP:GNG. Sources in the page are reliable, with some in-depth enough IMV. 1 & 3 are about the company and its franchise. 2 is the company's profile. The former link is dead. So I replaced it with an archived one. The fact that it's no longer a KBP member is not my concern. 4 & 5 are proof that the list of stations are owned by the company. SBKSPP (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reference #1 is just the law that allowed Kaissar to be established, it doesn't demonstrate notability. Reference #2 shows the company's profile from KBP. It just demonstrates Wikipedia:Verifiability, not notability. Reference #3 just shows passing mention of Kaissar, it mainly talks about Villar's then-plan nationwide broadcasting network. Here's the part where Kaissar is only mentioned:
And I want to emphasize the fact that the news article mentioned that Kaissar was a "little-known provincial radio TV network", which just suggests that the network is relatively not notable. This news article was published in 2021, but no news coverage about the network followed since then. A search query in Google News would just return articles about Kaiser Broadcasting (an American company), and a refined Gsearch query will just return unreliable sources like blogs and network listings from radio blogs.
References #4 and #5 were taken from the Philippine government through an FOI request, which I think is a case of WP:OR and are WP:PRIMARY sources. You wouldn't ask for the document from the government itself it was already available from secondary sources, which is what needed to establish notability.
Overall, these references just proves verifiability of the content in the article, but they do not demonstrate the subject's notability at all. AstrooKai (Talk) 07:52, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still believe that the article meets WP:GNG based on my reasons stated. You can never change my mind. SBKSPP (talk) 08:45, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

'Delete; none of the references demonstrate WP:SIGCOV, failing WP:GNG. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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