Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kalyn Free

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. No support for deletion or redirect. Owen× ☎ 05:36, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2004 United States House of Representatives elections in Oklahoma. This article fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. This person is a former congressional candidate and former district attorney. The election itself was particularly unnoteworthy and has had no lasting signficance. Local politicians are not automatically notable, nor are they not automatically not notable. Reasons a local politician could be notable are longevity in service (Robert L. Butler, Margaret Doud, or Hilmar Moore) or misconduct (Betty Loren-Maltese or Rita Crundwell) or being a local politician who happens to be famous for another reason (Brandon Bochenski as Mayor of Grand Forks or Kane as the county executive for Knox County.

While the article mentions she is the first woman and first Native American to be a district attorney for two specific counties. Johnston Murray served as a Governor decades prior. Alice Robertson, Bessie S. McColgin, and Lamar Looney all held office in the 1920s. She was predated by a number of female local politicians as well. This assumes it is true. While I do not believe Kalyn Free would lie, the citation for the first is self-published and I have found nothing at NewsBank to serve as a nonprimary source. She could be mistaken.

In an effort to see if Free's legal career meets GNG, I reviewed the informal list provided by User:Bearian and have found nothing to establish GNG is met here. She was the President of the Native American Bar Association in 1998. Given their more recent 990s on ProPublica's website, I'm not sure that is notable enough to move her towards meeting GNG. This article has been marked with issues since May 2017. It's time to make a decision. Mpen320 (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians, Women, Ethnic groups, Law, and Oklahoma. Skynxnex (talk) 17:39, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:BASIC but remove issues (even to a stub). I think there is enough sources from reputable organisations including this pub by the University of Oklahoma Press (already in the article) to demonstrate notability. Tamsier (talk) 23:28, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Follow up. Is this the entirety of the mention of her in the Voices from the Heartland: Volume II citation? It's a single paragraph in a 250-page book. I do see her name is mentioned on another page in the book, but that search does not allow me to preview beyond two lines of page 69.--Mpen320 (talk) 00:15, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  That, in addition to the other sources cited is sufficient to confirm notability in accordance with our notability guidelines. It is not a one line mention as per the spirit of our guideline. We don't necessarily need a whole page dedicated to them for notability. That's why I say perhaps remove the issues and reduce to stub if necessary using the already reliable sources cited. In my opinion, that's the best way to go, but as far as notability, there are sufficient sources confirming notability, and at the very least, passed the BASIC test. Tamsier (talk) 17:08, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I've been editing for fourteen years. I'm familiar with Wikipedia's guidelines and I do not believe she meets WP:BASIC based on being included as one of dozens of subjects in a book, even if that book was published by a university press. I belive I make my point why the rest of the coverage is either run of the mill or does not contribute to GNG and I'll just let the AfD play out.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:28, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. She is mentioned in the news pretty regularly. Yuchitown (talk) 02:10, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Free is pretty active in Oklahoma politics, especially in the tribal political campaign world. I would not have created an article for her because she does not meet WP:NPOL and is mostly a political figure, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm leaning delete. Would like to see a few more editors thoughts since I am less familiar with articles on non-electeds. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as meets WP:BASIC. I added a couple of references to article, and did some cleanup - still could use more work. Nnev66 (talk) 16:18, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.