Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kev Brown
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. 18 days of discussion hasn't yielded much other than approximately equal numbers of editors who say "he's notable" and editors who say "he's not", plus a list of sources that haven't been discussed in detail and may or may not contribute to notability. –Darkwind (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and WP:GNG. Despite being associated with some notable artists, the "Low Budget Crew" doesn't appear notable enough to confer notability upon Brown. KidAd (talk) 23:41, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Maryland-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 23:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
- Weak-ish keep. I'm a big fan of Kev Brown (anyone who loves that vintage, raw original hiphop sound should check out his albums I Do What I Do or Fill in the Blank for some true greatness, but that's beside the point), so I'm surprised to find he hasn't garnered a little more coverage. There's a short biography and a couple of reviews at AllMusic, a decent feature at Bandcamp Daily, a micro-review at Tiny Mix Tapes, a substantial review at someting called HHV and another from Exclaim! and... not a whole lot else. There's just about enough there to meet the notability requirements IMHO, though it looks like the article needs a bit of work. Totally understand why this made it to AfD. Thanks, — sparklism hey! 09:40, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as he passes WP:GNG with a staff written bio and two reviews at AllMusic, coverage at Clash, Tiny Mix Tapes and others so deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:24, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Atlantic306: could you share the Clash coverage you found please? Thanks :) — sparklism hey! 23:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I meant Exclaim as linked earlier - Im always muddling those two up,thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 23:18, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Atlantic306: could you share the Clash coverage you found please? Thanks :) — sparklism hey! 23:09, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- I could not find a page for Low Budget Crew. Maybe that page should be developed with info about the former members, which would include Kev Brown. (I found this music website archive for Low Budget Crew info that discusses the group, the former members pre- and post- affiliation, including Kev Brown. I did find more info about Kev Brown that should be reviewed before deciding on a deletion. For example, his press release for the Homework album comes with a long bio seen in this press release and expanded on the album blog post from official website; the official Twitter has recent activity, including updates about recent projects; Kev Brown Drops Some Rugged Rooftop Philosophy With J Scienide; Kev Brown’s Take On Jay Z’s Black Album Was An Unauthorized Remix That Surely Is Official; Kev Brown & Hassaan Mackey Got That Grit: Headnodding Beats & Smart Rhymes and related about album music video Here’s a new video from Kev Brown and Kaimbr. Check out Go Green; Kev Brown is one of those producers who has never gotten the proper level of recognition. He just dropped a new mixtape called Classic Joints that should help change that; a Wayback Machine lead toward Q&A audio; Roxanne-snowden (talk) 10:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if "Ambrosia For Heads" is a reliable source. KidAd (talk) 18:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
- Neither am I, though this article discusses the site in some detail. It certainly looks impartial. — sparklism hey! 09:55, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete since subject fails WP:NMUSICIAN and even WP:GNG. Niche sources such as "Ambrosia for Heads" are not worth much, especially since the subject is on “Ready Or Not”, a page that will list practically anything. (As they state, "[Ready or Not is] showcasing new videos and having you, the people, decide whether they are ready for primetime.") The artist might be ready for primetime ("nobody knows anything" in show business, anyway) but for Wikipedia, he's not. Not yet, anyway. -The Gnome (talk) 12:36, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 08:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite (talk) 08:17, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
- Still maintain that he passes WP:GNG and criteria 1 of WP:NMUSIC with significant coverage in WikiProject Music reliable sources such as Exclaim!, AllMusic (bios and reviews), Tiny Mix Tapes and others, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- The AfD was extended in order to receive new input. Do you suppose repeating our previously stated positions adds any value to the discussion? If you have something new to say, go ahead, but repeating ourselves only adds clutter. -The Gnome (talk) 08:35, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.