Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Khalil Dashtizadeh

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 11:01, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Khalil Dashtizadeh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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NN pilot. Fails WP:GNG. UtherSRG (talk) 10:38, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Military, and Iran. UtherSRG (talk) 10:38, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the two linked sources in the article are passing mentions. However, it would be reasonably likely to find sigcov in a non-digital Farsi source. —siroχo 10:46, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. We have generally kept articles on flying aces, who are likely to have reasonable coverage in non-digital sources (in Farsi, as Siroxo says). -- Necrothesp (talk) 11:10, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I Do added another source (digital english source):source no.2/ articles on flying aces are kept as allways. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patricia Mannerheim (talk • contribs) 12:22, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete There is no evidence the gentleman was a flying ace. Searcing the first ('Razoux 2015' is hardly helpful) and third source for the subject returns no result The second source, a Pakistani blog, gives a passing mention of the subject sourced to the Wikipedia list of Iranian flying aces article which itself is sourced to our friend M. Razoux. The fourth source is a bunch of old photos of pilots in which the subject is merely named in a group caption. The fifth, Mehr News Agency, source does not mention the subject. So in total, we have here a whole bunch of precisely nothing and it needs to go. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:03, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

see these: Razoux, Pierre (2019), Le siècle des As (1915-1988): Une autre histoire de l'aviation (in French), Place des éditeurs, ISBN 978-2-262-04827-3. and Razoux 2015, Table 1.3: Victories by Iranian pilots (3 or more victories), p. 571.--Patricia (Talk) 13:13, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete fails WP:GNG. Also there is no policy that aces are automatically notable, rather becoming an ace usually brings significant coverage which then satisfies GNG. Mztourist (talk) 04:18, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris ^talk! 04:17, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 05:54, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for lack of sourcing. Other then a mention in the chart in the book above, nothing found. Oaktree b (talk) 13:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No inherent notability in being a flying ace. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 09:41, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. It's interesting that if this ace was British or American (or even German) we'd have a flood of keep votes and it wouldn't have a chance of being deleted. Consensus in the past has clearly been to keep flying aces. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:28, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I reiterate my point above, there is no evidence the gentleman was a flying ace... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 15:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The subject lacks inherent notability as a flying ace, and without proper sourcing, it fails to meet the criteria for inclusion under WP:BIO. SaurabhSaha 12:12, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Necrothesp Agree. thats the point u mention.--Patricia (Talk) 14:00, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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