Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ladies and gentlemen (salutation)

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The result was speedy keep‎. (non-admin closure) Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) DrowssapSMM 13:33, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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unsourced, pretty much a dictionary definition DrowssapSMM 23:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC) Withdraw, issues have been fixed. Thanks, DIVC. DrowssapSMM 13:31, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Language-related deletion discussions. DrowssapSMM 23:49, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete WP:NOTDICT ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 04:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC) Keep since the article is now cited, and the article is now going into the significance of the salutation historically. ‍ ‍ Relativity ‍ ‍ 03:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Soft Delete -- Weak Keep -- The recent changes by Darcyisverycute just barely (imho) move this to the 'good' side of DICTDEF. There is just enough backgound and foundational info to make it 'more than'. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 13:16, 22 December 2023 (UTC) // Original: The article as it stands is a DICTDEF, but a future article could be created by someone knowledgeable in the field. The phrase has a storied history and has evolved over the last century. Without subject-matter expertise, however, there is virtually no method to research this. I know some of the that history and I can't even come up with WP:THREE. There just is no way to separate the wheat from the chaff in searching books, journals or other sources with two of the most common salutatory terms in the English language. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 17:36, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge -- I believe that we should merge this article with Salutations, more specifically, be put under the English section Положение - Userpage 23:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC) 22:58, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak merge: Unsourced dicdef. Ping if sources found. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 02:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep, with thanks to DIVC. Queen of Hearts ❤️ (she/they 🎄 🏳️‍⚧️) 13:24, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep I have found some sources and rewrote the article, I kindly ask participants in the AfD to examine and reconsider deletion. I cannot find citations supporting specific usage or the irreversible binomial nature in Vaudeville material, so I have removed these statements that would be otherwise unsourced, with no prejudice to adding the statements back at a later date if sources can be found (likely WP:OFFLINE). @Queen of Hearts Darcyisverycute (talk) 13:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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