Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lee Roupas (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Aoidh (talk) 01:12, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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It turns out a nomination I made a decade ago was never completed. This is my effort to complete it. This article states that Lee Roupas was a local elected official and a political staffer. It was created by a user whose only other contributions were for Roupas, a political ally of Roupas, and a political opponent of Roupas.

Lee Roupas was a local elected official as the township committeeman elected in the Republican primary amongst Palos Township residents (an electorate of 3,053 voters) and then later chosen among the 80 committeemen to be the county party chairman. While local officials are neither notable or not notable, the bar requires meeting a 10-year historical significance test that Roupas does not meet. Nor did anything of note happen that would warrant him getting an article for it happening.

The article also covers his political staffer roles. The use of vague terms like "staff" are meant to hide his title for the 2004 Republican National Convention was "assistant to the director for communications." This was not a notable role nor are hired mid-level roles for state parties notable roles. We often remove state party chairs. Given the political chapter of his life has largely ended and that he has since he has moved to a neighboring county to be an assistant state's attorney (this would be hired staff not an elected role or political appointment), his article now reads as masking the lack of notability via building a biography. Mpen320 (talk) 23:56, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Politicians and Illinois. Shellwood (talk) 00:36, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Mpen320 (talk) 00:53, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Sources seem to be about a political staffer, nothing notable. I can't find any articles about this person. Not sure what the AfD in 2011 was about, I suppose we had different notability standards then. Oaktree b (talk) 02:05, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Reply. For context, the first AfD ended in "no consensus" after one keep vote and after relisting resulted in a single addition vote for weak keep. A total of 3 users participated and contributed a few sentences in total. As the deletion stream for politics demonstrates, such an AfD would be relisted for a second time if done today. There was a second nomination that was a botched creation by me when I was less familiar with AfDs. In retrospect, I think making a 3rd nomination instead of trying to recreate the 2nd nomination page was an error on my part since it will create the illusion that there have been two discussions.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:41, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, The few sources that give WP:SIGCOV are about his career not his political staff appointment. Those about his career pass WP:GNG. Mekomo (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Reply. What sources offer SIGCOV about his legal career? Everything in here is local coverage about a local figure. Let's review the citations: his middle initial in a legal directory, a student newspaper about a WP:RUNOFTHEMILL student council race, a self-published letter to the editor to a political blog, three paragraphs in a local newspaper about a local appointment reserved for his political party, a quote given in a North Carolina newspaper about a referendum of which he is not even tangentially the subject, public statements as the president of a statewide niche occupational group that would not pass what is laid out at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) at least one of which is self-published. I also did a newspaper search before nominating this yesterday and found nothing that says his legal career is any more notable than any other attorney in a local prosecutor's office.--Mpen320 (talk) 17:19, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - I don't see significant coverage. Reasonable people can disagree. But as a local Political Party official, he objectively fails NPOL. Bearian (talk) 22:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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