Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of articles related to negative energy

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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 17:41, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List of articles related to negative energy

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I am not sure what the subject of this article is. In physics (which I have some knowledge of) potential energy can be negative (for example, potential energy of the Coulomb repulsion is negative), and, for example, the total energies of bound states of an electron in a hydrogen atom are negative, and nobody makes any fuzz about it. The kinetic energy is always positive, though it is sometimes convenient to count it from some level, like in solids, and operate with negative energies. There is no fuzz about this either, and there is no room for a separate article on this subject. Concerning esoterics, I am not an expert, but I am deeply concerned with the fact that the article has no material and no sources. Finally, it is not even an article but a list — a list of Wikipedia articles. It just can not be in the main namespace in this form. Ymblanter (talk) 10:39, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. This is arguably a indiscriminate collection of information loosely tied together through original research. Even if the article were cleaned up, it seems doubtful that it would satisfy WP:LISTN. Maybe there's hope that it could be salvaged to be an index of physics articles? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:33, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:33, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as it stands as WP:Original research. The list is trying to combine anti-matter and exotic solutions to known physics, with science fiction, and religious ideas and beliefs. I have no objection to recreation of separate articles, e.g. negative energy in mystical and religious beliefs, but these are in no way related to e.g. Hawking radiation or the Dirac Sea. Similarly negative energy in science fiction usually has very little to do with current religious ideas, and known physics.Martin451 18:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; the entire list easily is WP:OR. In addition, even if the list somehow was not OR, the topic is simply not worth having a list about. Seriously, I can't think of a time when it would be necessary to look this up. Maybe this has some merit as a category, but certainly not as a list. StringTheory11 (t • c) 05:36, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not a useful grouping and somewhat OR in the sense that it's too vague. There is no Category:Negative energy and negative energy is currently a redirect to negative mass, which discusses a much narrower concept. Granted, negative energy might be better turned into a dab, because I'm sure there are humorist uses along the lines of [1] (well, that's about "negative waves", but you get the idea) plus new and old religions who might take that idea seriously. But I'm sure there aren't 40+ meanings to "negative energy" as this list/dab seems to suggest. I've picked up one of the articles listed at random: Melanin theory; it doesn't contain the word "negative" at all, so miffed how it might involve negative energy (and what definition thereof it might use). I can understand why Feng shui is listed though ("negative energy" understood/defined as "negative Qi" there). Energy (esotericism) is a separate article from energy though, and there's a large Energy (disambiguation). The issue is that you can paste "negative" in front of many non-physical-science uses for "energy" and they'd make the same amount of [non-]sense as before, so I'm not sure it makes sense to have all such covered in a list/dab... What would make some sense is a section about "negative energy" in Energy (esotericism) to cover that kind of stuff and a redirect to that section along the lines negative energy (esotericism), which could be hatted at negative mass as "negative energy redirects here; for other uses see negative energy (esotericism)". Someone not using his real name (talk) 17:20, 29 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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