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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Santos Seda
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Does not meet threshold of WP:Politician Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 23:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Small-town mayor (Guánica, Puerto Rico has 13,787 people) is not notable for WP:NPOL's municipal politician guidelines. Relies on one source. Bkissin (talk) 17:39, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - a single source is original research. His X account has fewer than 400 followers. Bearian (talk) 18:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - I can find two minor mentions in articles about the 2020 earthquake, every other source I can see is using this Wikipedia article to source their information. Not notable. Absurdum4242 (talk) 06:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NPOL and no WP:SIGCOV sources to make the subject pass WP:GNG. Thanks to the nominator for finding this article and nominating it. GrabUp - Talk 07:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Jitul Sonowal
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References seem to only be tangentially related to him or just promotional. Several red links to songs. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 23:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the biography and music career of the subject. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICBIO. No significant and noteworthy achievement by the subject's role as a singer and musician to warrant a page on Wikipedia. RangersRus (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per NMUSICBIO: 1. He has not “been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable,” being tangential to the stories in major media; 2. there’s no evidence that he “Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart,” or 3. “Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.” He has never had 4. “international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.” Nor is there any evidence of meeting any other factor. If I’m wrong, please ping me. Bearian (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete can’t find any second party sources focussed on him. The ONE source which comes close is an article saying he had been appointed head of the North East Zone Cultural Center, but even that was super short of detail. Other articles where he gives speeches for the NEZCC are him talking about the center but nothing about him, just the mention that he spoke. This article has also been deleted before I see, I wonder why it was remade? The only thing that would change my mind is as per Bearian, if someone can show us non-English sources for notability. Absurdum4242 (talk) 12:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- The Monument Mythos (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to fail notability guidelines. Most of the article’s sources are student newspapers by the author’s own description. Could not find reliable significant coverage in my search. Has been previously deleted. StewdioMACK (talk) 09:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Has been previously deleted.
... when? Has been previously kept....Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Draft:The_Monument_Mythos... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)- It was kept as a draft. It was nominated for deletion as a draft by a non-good-faith actor. But that is not evidence that there was a consensus that the subject is notable after someone challenged its notability. Drafts are not deleted for lack of notability so a draft being kept does not mean that editors thought that the subject is notable. —Alalch E. 15:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, maybe, but the page was discussed and the then-draft found promising by some users, whereas deletion was NOT discussed, so that stating ’has been previously deleted’ here (an AfD venue, where consensus is what matters) is misleading imv. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that's is misleading. The decision to keep the draft does not matter at all in either direction. —Alalch E. 22:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, maybe, but the page was discussed and the then-draft found promising by some users, whereas deletion was NOT discussed, so that stating ’has been previously deleted’ here (an AfD venue, where consensus is what matters) is misleading imv. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:46, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, right. The MfD. yikes. Babysharkboss2!! (No Life 'Til Leather) 13:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- It was kept as a draft. It was nominated for deletion as a draft by a non-good-faith actor. But that is not evidence that there was a consensus that the subject is notable after someone challenged its notability. Drafts are not deleted for lack of notability so a draft being kept does not mean that editors thought that the subject is notable. —Alalch E. 15:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Babysharkboss2!! (Nomad Vagabond) 14:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if, as one of the contributors to the page, you could find time to explain why you think deletion is not necessary. Thank you in advance. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Babysharkboss2 (pinging you to increase chances you read this). Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, yeah. Anyway, this has etiquette enough sources and there are still sources to be added. It survived MfD (Even after one very...passionate user wanted it gone). So i'd like to keep it. Babysharkboss2!! (Nomad Vagabond) 12:54, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Babysharkboss2 (pinging you to increase chances you read this). Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- It would be helpful if, as one of the contributors to the page, you could find time to explain why you think deletion is not necessary. Thank you in advance. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:09, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: This is about all there is [1] for sourcing and it's not enough. Rest of what's used is marginally reliable sources per Source Highlighter, so not much of anything we can use for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I am satisfied with the existing coverage, see GNews please. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:04, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: significant coverage in reliable sources includes Collider (twice) but also The Gamer among other things and I would consider https://fnewsmagazine.com/2022/01/ghosts-in-the-machine-the-star-spangled-monsters-of-mister-manticores-the-monument-mythos/ and the article in the The Signal perfectly acceptable sources too.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:16, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I find F Newsmagazine to be a very good, professional-level, outlet in the areas of culture and critique of visual media. —Alalch E. 14:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I don't find any substantial, reliable sources for this. Most of what is here are student publications, including F Newsmagazine, which is a student publication of the Arts Institute of Chicago. The coverage in Collider and The Gamer is limited to a few paragraphs in a page with many other entries, and formulaic in style. AKA: promotional. Searching turns up lots of TikTok and other bits, none which have any content about the "show". Lamona (talk) 03:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sudent or college newspapers, but high-quality (and award-winning, for one of them) reliable ones. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep + add further improvements - shJunpei :3 12:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- This page puts some major parts of the Monument Mythos right into the first segment. There should be an area marked "Plot" for that. - shJunpei :3 12:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep in addition to the sources cited above it's an exemplar of the emerging subgenre of analog horror. The series just wrapped up last year. In "J-HORROR Y ESTÉTICA VHS EN EL ANALOG HORROR DE YOUTUBE" by Javier Acevedo Nieto,[2] The Monument Mythos is given as an example of the growing popularity of analog horror. There are several articles from reliable sources that are admittedly about ARGs, but give The Monument Mythos a key place in the genre.[3] There are some more niche horror publications that give the series more coverage.[4] The article needs to be cleaned up, but the sources are out there. Ted the Caver was an even more niche online horror series, and it is still being seriously discussed, Rjjiii (talk) 04:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rjjiii, it all depends on the existence of reliable sources that can establish notability. Which ones do you believe provides SIGCOV? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Below are the approximate word counts for just the content explicitly about The Monument Mythos. I checked the sources mentioned here and cited in the article, and left off anything with less than a hundred words about the subject:
- The Horror Fam page has about 1,400 words but is more of an editorial. Rjjiii (talk) 05:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rjjiii, it all depends on the existence of reliable sources that can establish notability. Which ones do you believe provides SIGCOV? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - lacks significant coverage in reliable sources. Cuñado ☼ - Talk 19:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- merge to analog horror. there doesnt seem to be enough secondary sources notability for a seperate article, but it’s solid enough as an example of the genre which has notability itself. In fact, I see it is already given in that article as an example of the genre. No need for the split page. Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Sorry, I didn't review this AFD again until tonight, didn't see the messages. Liz Read! Talk! 06:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- New FM (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unsourced since 2010 Golikom (talk) 11:59, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete lack of WP:SIGCOV. Xegma(talk) 12:57, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Broadcast Operations Group' per ATD.Nate • (chatter) 16:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Switch to keep per Bas's improvements; sorry I didn't notice this before the last relist. @Liz:, if nobody else objects, I think we can call this closed? Nate • (chatter) 23:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources I added.
Sources:
- Connell, Tim (30 August 2012). "today's topics - Rock classic makes its sound mark". Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Fairfax Media. p. 13. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank. The article notes "It was the very first song played on Newcastle's first commercial FM radio station, NEW-FM. ... The station's founder, Mike Webb, chose Long Way to the Top to put his baby to air on April 14, 1989. The new FM player tore off a huge chunk of the ratings at the expense of 2NX, Newcastle's existing hit music station."
- Sadlier, Kevin (7 May 1989). "Radio". Television. The Sun-Herald. Sydney: John Fairfax Holdings. p. 116. Retrieved 16 April 2010 – via NewsBank. The article notes "NEWCASTLE'S newest station, NEW-FM, was officially launched last night with a spectacular pysotechnics/laser/rock show - the largest free entertainment event ever held in the Hunter region, according to NEW's Mike Webb. NEW can be found at 105.3 on the FM band."
- Sadlier, Kevin (26 November 1989). "FM Stations Eat Away at Ratings". News and Features. The Sun-Herald. Sydney: John Fairfax Holdings. p. 134. Retrieved 17 April 2010 – via NewsBank. The article notes: "In Newcastle, NEW-FM began broadcasting only last April. In its first ratings survey, NEW achieved a rating of 24.7."
- Joyce, James (14 May 1999). "Birthday blowout for NEW-FM". News. Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Newcastle Newspapers Pty Limited. p. 63. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank. The article notes: "NEW-FM celebrated its 10th birthday last month. ... Instead of dishing out party favours, new owner Bill Caralis cut costs and staff and flicked the switch to night music networked out of his Lismore station. ... When they left in November 1993 to join Triple M in Adelaide, the failure to find a winning replacement spearheaded the ratings nose-dive that paved the way for 2HD's $2.3million buy-out of NEW's mostly local shareholders in 1994. But after five years of Labor control, NEW is still a long way from the glory of its early years under founder Mike Webb."
- Joyce, James (22 March 1999). "NSW Labor signs off with 2HD". News. Newcastle Herald. Newcastle: Newcastle Newspapers Pty Limited. p. 12. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank. The article notes: "THE NSW Labor Party and Labor Council have handed control of radio stations 2HD and NEW-FM to regional radio mogul Bill Caralis a week before the State election. The outgoing chairman of the Sandgate-based broadcasters, John Price, said Friday's official change of ownership would 'enable the NSW ALP to concentrate on better serving the Hunter community'. The sale price is believed to have been $12.5million"
- Day, Mark (10 February 2000). "Mystery mogul of radio". News. The Australian. Sydney: News Limited. p. M12. Retrieved 15 September 2024 – via NewsBank. The article notes: "He has spent an estimated $40 million in the past 12 months on additional licences and a state-of-the-art broadcast centre, and is the force behind a shake-up of commercial radio. So, asks Mark Day, who is Bill Caralis? ... While Caralis's Broadcast Operations Pty Ltd is a private company, he has every right to tell us all to go to hell. ... He stunned the radio industry last year when he bought two Newcastle stations -- NEW FM and 2HD -- from the NSW Labor Council for more than $11 million, double the 'Bill will need to have deep pockets' value ascribed to them less than a year earlier."
There is sufficient coverage in multiple reliable sources to allow the subject to pass the general notability guideline, requiring "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". --Yours sincerely, Bas (or TechGeek105) (talk to me) 01:41, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above. I would likely have said much the same thing as an extensive user of NewsBank. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:12, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- keep per Bas, that seems like more than enough solid sources. Little surprised this has been Relisted twice since then, it seems obvious. Absurdum4242 (talk) 13:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. I see a consensus to Delete this article. Liz Read! Talk! 22:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Bafakhy Yatheemkhana
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I cannot find WP:SIGCOV of this charitable organization in WP:SIRS for a pass of WP:GNG or WP:NORG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep pass WP:GNG There is a reliable source [14][15][16], Consider the (School) category ~Spworld2 (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Your first two links are single-paragraph WP:ROUTINE news stories that do not provide WP:SIGCOV. Your third link is dead, but the archived version shows it is a commemorative anniversary book published by the subject of the article and thus not independent. None of these sources get to GNG, and the School page you linked is a non-binding essay. The actual policy, WP:NSCHOOL, requires schools to meet WP:GNG, WP:NORG, or both, and so far there are no sources that contribute to either guideline. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Sources are very poor with no indepth significant coverage. Sources are more about the school activities in sanitation, math fair, science fair and such. Page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. RangersRus (talk) 12:12, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Nothing in Gnews, regular Gsearch only brings up social media for the institution. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom lacks indepth coverage.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 05:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment As per reference, During the course of this discussion This article has been updated in the School category! Check once with WP:GNG, WP:NORG Consider the (School) category ~ Spworld2 (talk) 19:24, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - If this is kept in any form it needs to be renamed. It is Valavannur Bafakhy Yatheemkhana School, and all the other Bafakhy Yatheemkhana, Bafaghi Yatheem Khana etc. institutions in Kerala are seperate and distinct. Also in reply to the above comment, NORG is a higher bar than GNG, but GNG will do. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:44, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Sourcing has been found to be insufficient depth and independence. Star Mississippi 01:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Rouzbeh Rafie
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Fails WP:COMPOSER. None of the sources here establish WP:GNG notability, either on account of not being independent (personal website, profile at Ulysses platform, which appears to allow self published pages, Ermes 404 a publisher of his music, an interview with Rafie), reliable (wordpress blog) or significant (pretty much all the other sources).
Criterion 3 of COMPOSER states that those who havewritten a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers.
may be notable, but none of the competitions he has won appear to be "major" (at the very least, they don't have Wikipedia articles) Mach61 23:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I added a few more reliable independent sources (e.g. Association of Iranian Contemporary Music Composers (ACIMC)).
- In my opinion, Rafie meets criteria for Wikipedia:NMUSICOTHER, saying "Composers and performers outside mass media traditions may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria: Has composed a number of notable melodies, tunes, or standards used in a notable music genre."
- The competitions are notable from my point of view, especially considering the small world of contemporary experimental (classical) music. E.G. a festival like MUSEQUAL https://www.kokonainenfestival.fi/?lang=en has a very good reputation, even without a wiki article Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 08:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 None of the sources you added move the needle with regard to being independent and in-depth. (for example this is a profile on the website of an organization Rafie is a member of).
- Rafie does not meet that criterion of NMUSICOTHER, because a "notable" composition is one that qualifies for an article, by having sources cover it. None of Rafie's originals have gotten that. Mach61 17:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- I added another independen reliable source from the "Bach&Now Festival", where Rafie was chosen Artist-in-Residence. https://bachandnow.de/en/composer-in-residence/ Hopefully this will help to keep the article! Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 15:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 This profile is written by Rafie (
As “Composer in Residence” of the Bach & now! festival, I am thrilled to share my musical journey and artistic vision with you.
Mach61 19:03, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- From my point of view, the fact that he was chosen artist in residence by the festival including three commissioned world premiere compositions, proofs that he is a notable composer. I checked the imprint, and Rafie is not a member of the festival board, festival founder or anything else. So it's at least an independent source. Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 20:24, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 This profile is written by Rafie (
- I added another independen reliable source from the "Bach&Now Festival", where Rafie was chosen Artist-in-Residence. https://bachandnow.de/en/composer-in-residence/ Hopefully this will help to keep the article! Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 15:38, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- I was able to find some more independent secondary sources and added them to the article. https://aleph-fdn.com/directory/rouzbeh-rafie/ https://www.alexandra-sostmann.de/projects_e.html and an article from the italian newspaper "La Nazione" on winning the "Ennio Porrino Competition" and his composition "Chaconne". Hope this will help to prove that he is a serious composer and to keep the Wiki article! Thanks! Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 08:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.lanazione.it/grosseto/cronaca/premio-porrino-serata-finale-e-proclamazione-del-vincitore-rouzbeh-rafie-vn53mvj2 Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 09:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 Aleph is an organization that organizes composing evens, including some Rafie participated in. Not independent. Alexandra Sostmann is a pianist who worked with Rafie; ibid.
- I will grant that the La Nazione article is unambigiously an independent, reliable source, and though it doesn't discuss Rafie in much depth, it does seem to confirm that the Ennio Porrino is major for WP:COMPOSER purposes. With that being said, the notability criteria for musicians are not absolute (
Please note that... meeting any of these criteria does not mean that an article must be kept
), and for reasons explained below I still believe the article should be deleted. - One reason Wikipedia has notability criterion, as explained at WP:WHYN:
- Ultimately, it remains that there no entity independent of Rafie has bothered to cover his actions in any depth, meaning that any article about him must be based on his own word (that you've included a bunch of redundant biographies from affiliated organizations that are clearly based on his personal webpage doesn't change this fact). Mach61 23:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would like to emphasize once again that a large part of the article is not only based on biographical information, but is also clearly supported by additional independent sources:
- Performances of his works at international festivals
- Artist in Residence at international festivals
- Awards at international composition competitions
- Performances and recordings of his works by international artists
- Publication of his works on international CD productions
- Publication of his works in sheet music form
- What kind of sources are otherwise required to independently verify certain stages in his biography? Does he have to submit his university diploma if a festival wants to publish his biography on the festival's website?
- The article can certainly be improved! If there are passages that are not sufficiently sourced, the Wikipedia community can remove them, no problem. But I cannot understand at all the claim that Rafie does not have enough sufficient references to justify a Wikipedia article. Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 11:08, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 An inependent source is simply one that isn't
produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it
. I have exhaustively shown why almost none of the sources in the article are actually independent of Rafie, and will not bother to argue in circles about it. Mach61 02:52, 28 September 2024 (UTC) - Virtually none of those qualify as secondary sources, which are required to show notability on Wikipedia. WP:SECONDARY:CDs, sheet music, awards, performances, and musical recordings are all primary sources. Based on your argument, any person who has ever recorded music and put it on a CD would qualify for a Wikipedia article, and that's simply not how Wikipedia works. Left guide (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Klaviermusikfan1972 An inependent source is simply one that isn't
- I would like to emphasize once again that a large part of the article is not only based on biographical information, but is also clearly supported by additional independent sources:
- https://www.lanazione.it/grosseto/cronaca/premio-porrino-serata-finale-e-proclamazione-del-vincitore-rouzbeh-rafie-vn53mvj2 Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 09:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was able to find some more independent secondary sources and added them to the article. https://aleph-fdn.com/directory/rouzbeh-rafie/ https://www.alexandra-sostmann.de/projects_e.html and an article from the italian newspaper "La Nazione" on winning the "Ennio Porrino Competition" and his composition "Chaconne". Hope this will help to prove that he is a serious composer and to keep the Wiki article! Thanks! Klaviermusikfan1972 (talk) 08:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per my comment above and Mach61's thorough analysis of the sources throughout this discussion. Left guide (talk) 13:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Suggest discussion on NFF wording continue elsewhere and be clarified, if needed. Star Mississippi 01:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Diablo (upcoming film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreleased film, not expected to release until 2025. Does not meet WP:NFF or WP:SIGCOV, and won't until release. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. It should be created on release day. AutorisedUser673 (talk) 17:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- If that is a joke, that’s funny. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Filming complete; reliable sources cover production with significant information allowing to build and expand so that the page can be retained and wait for reviews that will come probably around the time of the expected release. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - why does it matter that "filming is complete" - the film is not being released until 2025. WP:NFF is clear:
Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines.
There is nothing notable about the production itself, and the film has not yet been released, so... BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 21:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- Well, it does matter whether filming has started (or, for that matter, is complete) or not, for obvious reasons and for policy-based reasons. As for the rest, I beg to differ. We have reliable media outlets offering significant coverage about cast, plot, production, etc, so I will stand by my Keep. NFF is clear, yes, maybe, and production seems notable enough per the guidelines. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - why does it matter that "filming is complete" - the film is not being released until 2025. WP:NFF is clear:
- Keep Standard to have articles once films have begun filming.★Trekker (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:NFF statement above. Filming has begun and as Deadline Hollywood has reported, the filming has wrapped. That said, most citations about the filming and completion were not stated by their said sources in the article and were really mangled. I've adjusted them now. Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Reminder that "filming complete" is the requirement for films that don't have independently notable production, and doesn't in itself mean that we need a standalone article on the film yet. Are there reasons to keep beyond "meets the bare minimum"?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 22:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- I am confused. The general requirement for films that don't have independently notable production (ie films meeting NFF), is that filming has begun, not the wrapping of filming (which implies it has started, obviously). Or did you mean something else? As for "meets the bare minimum", well, I am not sure this is strictly the case, but if it is, then, what's the issue? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The state of filming is unimportant (and I'm not sure why it's included in the NFF statement
Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines.
) - it's clearly just confusing. The important detail is that absent the production somehow being significant, the film a) needs to have been released, and b) otherwise satisfies WP:N via WP:SIGCOV in independent WP:RS. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:55, 25 September 2024 (UTC)- ??????? Then change the guideline. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- The state of filming is unimportant (and I'm not sure why it's included in the NFF statement
- I am confused. The general requirement for films that don't have independently notable production (ie films meeting NFF), is that filming has begun, not the wrapping of filming (which implies it has started, obviously). Or did you mean something else? As for "meets the bare minimum", well, I am not sure this is strictly the case, but if it is, then, what's the issue? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 23:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Vasiljka Jezovšek
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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2019. Only source is to bachcantatas which is a website anyone can edit and is unreliable. Not clear the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 23:19, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Ok to delete, though I have added sources and removed most of the extraneous detail sourced to her biography on the Bach Cantatas Website, so it reads like less of a CV or promotional article. Does not meet WP:GNG. Despite a couple of favorable mentions in The Times (including the one from 1996 now quoted and cited within the article, which is likely one of her most positive reviews), in general there is a dearth of coverage found in English or German over the course of her career (only 10 hits on ProQuest, most of which turn out to be mentions), and the one recording review in Rondo magazine is quite negative, such that I would imagine if it were up to her she probably wouldn't think it was worth having a Wikipedia article if she had to see it quoted there. Please ping me if anyone finds additional coverage. Cielquiparle (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. asilvering (talk) 22:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
British army in the Eureka Rebellion
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Unnecessary content fork. Content could easily be merged into Eureka Rebellion and List of Eureka Stockade defenders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- keep not at all a WP:CFORK. I see almost no overlaps. And we don't merge large articles into huger ones. --Altenmann >talk 17:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just wanted to note that 860 words of readable prose is hardly a large article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete unnecessary WP:CFORK and one of many excessive bloated pages about this minor event. Mztourist (talk) 04:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete clearly a CFORK, I don't even see any content that would be worth keeping in a merge. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: This is pretty extensive so I'd prefer a bit more confirmation that deletion is the right call here over any possible WP:ATD.
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- Delete per other contributors, there's nothing here that's unique to this article and therefore nothing to merge. Archimedes157 (talk) 12:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was withdrawn; speedy keep. (non-admin closure) Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Andrew Wojtanik (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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After 18 years on Wikipedia, this individual appears still to be a WP:BLP1E. No WP:SIGCOV outside one event in 2004, so no WP:GNG pass, and unlikely to clear WP:NACADEMIC. Winning the National Geography Bee seems unlikely to be a WP:ANYBIO #1 pass, since he is the only winner to have had a page created in 30+ years of this competition's history. Finally, I find no reviews in independent, reliable sources for Wojtanik's book, making a pass on WP:NAUTHOR unlikely. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per WP:NAUTHOR, WP:BASIC and WP:HEY. Added several reviews of the 2012 book including Library Media Connection, School Library Journal, and Voice of Youth Advocates. (Additional reviews of the original guide are available via Wikipedia Library, EBSCO and Gale General OneFile.) Added two articles from Capper's regarding his 2004 win and the 2005 international competition in Hungary where he represented the United States as part of a three-person team, as well as the Associated Press article about how he won the 2004 National Geographic Bee. The review in Geography Teacher actually also included information on how he worked with National Geographic staff to develop the book. Have also brought the article up to date with his current status as a political scientist at UC Berkeley studying Africa. The article is in better shape now compared to when it was first nominated; it was important to correct some facts and remove unverified information per WP:BLP, but this has been done now. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for improving the page. With the sources you've identified I agree this subject passes. Withdrawn, speedy keep. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:33, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. asilvering (talk) 22:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Diario Paraguay-Rundschau
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Doesn't seem to meet notability criteria. Could not find any mentions to this paper anywhere else on the internet. Coeusin (talk) 21:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was Draftify. asilvering (talk) 22:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Justin Janssen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find anything approaching WP:SIGCOV for this footballer. Seems WP:TOOSOON for an article at the moment as all I found was this routine transactional announcement. JTtheOG (talk) 20:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 21:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify or delete per WP:ANYBIO and BLPSOURCES. Why was this accepted at NPR? Perhaps they know of sources we don't? SerialNumber54129 13:40, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article was reviewed as a part of the ongoing September New Page Patrol Backlog Drive, but articles like this get reviewed pretty often regardless. JTtheOG (talk) 17:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. GiantSnowman 18:04, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify as an ATD. Not presently notable. Bobby Cohn (talk) 20:09, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Polar Beverages without prejudice against a selective merge of sourced, encyclopedic content. Please let me or another admin know if the disruptive editing continues, so that a page protection or partial block will be applied. Owen× ☎ 22:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Aspire (Energy) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This advertorial article on an energy drink does not meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for corporations/businesses WP:NCORP, lacking WP:CORPDEPTH the citations are either primary sources, blogs, or press-release type PR. The product itself does not meet WP:GNG. I think it's PROMO. Netherzone (talk) 20:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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requested in good faith
)… nor am I entirely sure what the best course of action is here, beyond that I suspect (and would certainly support that) some form of deletion will be the end result here. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:36, 24 September 2024 (UTC)- I also do not know what the best course of action is, I think it needs admin eyes perhaps... Netherzone (talk) 02:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- My apologies, I will no longer act like that, it was wrong and this isn't the place to act like a child TheJodeciadams (talk) 13:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I also do not know what the best course of action is, I think it needs admin eyes perhaps... Netherzone (talk) 02:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- They untagged the article and then moved it to Draft space and blanked the page. I've reverted their actions. Liz Read! Talk! 04:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Worthless PR babble. Take it to Facebook, it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 06:03, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- 100% correct, I thought I was able to create an article but it looks like I'm very ill knowledged, I apologize for myself causing so much trouble for you guys. TheJodeciadams (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheJodeciadams, it sounds like you did not know that it was not OK to write an article that promotes or advertises things or people (it's a common mistake with new editors); but please know that it is ok to write neutrally about something of interest that is notable. What is meant by "notable" on WP can be found here: WP:Notability. If you want to try to write an article productively, it must have reliable sources, info can be found here: WP:RS and WP:CITE. If you would like to stick around and try write articles for the encyclopedia, know that it's not ok to remove Articles for Deletion banners if your article get nominated for deletion! You can also read Help:Your first article for guidance. And if you have questions in the future, please ask them at the Teahouse or Help Desk (there are links on your user talk page). Netherzone (talk) 15:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- 100% correct, I thought I was able to create an article but it looks like I'm very ill knowledged, I apologize for myself causing so much trouble for you guys. TheJodeciadams (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but merge this as a section under the producer Polar Beverages, as at least it won't hurt WP:CORPDEPTH. There's such a thing as merge when it comes to drinks. Heck, do you know how many flavors Carabao Energy Drink and Minute Maid have? And yet they've got articles! If this article is more of a PR stunt, then I hold my peace!Intrisit (talk) 21:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you can find something of worth in that mess, by all means add a section there. But the article itself should go. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 06:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sp please by all means get rid of it, and just wanted to lyk its just an article not the declaration of independence so the fact that y'all are taking it this serious is wild, listen I want the page gone as well, this page wasn't a PR stunt, I was very excited about the thought of creating my own article, I'm sorry. TheJodeciadams (talk) 12:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- If you can find something of worth in that mess, by all means add a section there. But the article itself should go. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 06:29, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I feel this article has the opportunity to be improved, I've been trying the past couple of days to improve upon it, and I will continue to do so, I believe this article deserves a chance, drink articles can also be informative and knowledgeable.
TheJodeciadams (talk) 06:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- And no, I'm not creating this article based on promoting the product, I just want people to be aware of stuff like this, there wasnt a page on it and the drink has been out for 14 years I just thought it was time. And I see so many other article with little to no references and Promo content that have been on wiki for a long time and still are on here TheJodeciadams (talk) 11:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of Hindi films of 1973. Owen× ☎ 22:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ek Mutthi Aasmaan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NFILM. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 20:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1973: but not opposed to Keep if other users think it is suitable (added things to verify notable cast and music director, myself) and off-line sources might exist. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. 4 poor sources where 2 are entries and other 2 passing mention. Fails WP:NFILM and WP:SIGCOV. RangersRus (talk) 15:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- General note: There is a generally-accepted working consensus regarding released films with notable cast and/or made by a notable director (and/or including the participation of notable personalities (musicians, writers, etc). The said consensus is that such articles are redirected to a list of films by year/country or to the article about their director when they can, if reliable sources allow verification. When such films are mentioned as critical and/or commercial successes especially pre-internet films, and, again, given coverage allows verification, their cultural and historical significance is generally considered a sufficient reason to retain a standalone page. Either way, the consensus is that such pages are generally not deleted.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:12, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Hindi films of 1973: The cast is certainly notable, but all I could find was a blog that mentioned that the movie was a flop [17]. If anyone can find a serious review, Keep. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Owen× ☎ 22:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Heera Nagar
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Reviewed during NPP. With GNG clearly not a possibility, Ngeo is the only possibility. Of the two references, one is only about linguistics put in to support a general linguistics statement. (i.e. not about the subject) The other source is a short article about a court case about non-residential building being built in a residential neighborhood, and that article refers to this as a residential area. A google map search yields a zillion Heera Nagar's, so it's apparently common to name residential areas "Heera Nagar" possibly based on linguistics.
There is nothing in the sources that supports any of the specific statements in the article regarding the subject. I'm not talking about this in a wp:ver context. I'm saying that all of the statements about it as being an entity are unsourced except for the lawsuit referring to it as a residential area. North8000 (talk) 20:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: no significant coverage. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 12:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Owen× ☎ 22:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Ling Racing
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I don't see any pass for this subject on WP:NSPORT or WP:GNG. The source for virtually all of this content is stats pages (making most of the narrative original research), and there's no WP:SIGCOV of this racing team that I can find in my WP:BEFORE search. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom; I searched and couldn't find significant coverage for this article subject. Best available is this which only contains a photo caption passing mention of Ling Racing. Left guide (talk) 08:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of accidents and incidents involving the Convair CV-240 family. Issues with sourcing can be discussed on the target's Talk page. Owen× ☎ 22:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Non notable incident with zero fatalities nor injuries, along with lack of citations. Lolzer3k 18:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of accidents and incidents involving the Convair CV-240 family since the accident isn't enough notable to have its own article. @SignorPignolini Talk 19:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect per @SignorPignolini and add summary to La Aurora International Airport. Per longtime WP:AV community consensus, non-fatality airliner hull-loss accidents that lack WP:CONTINUED coverage are adequately summarized in the accident list for the aircraft type, and if they occurred during taxi, takeoff, approach, or landing, in the article about the airport. Carguychris (talk) 17:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Follow-up comment: After digging a little deeper, this crash seems to have issues with sourcing, as the factual assertions in the article rely on an ASN Wikibase article that lists no sources. Per previous WP:AV talk page consensus, ASN is reliable, but its "Wikibase" articles have WP:UGC issues and should be used only in conjunction with other sources, but in this case, there don't seem to be any. I'm leaning towards changing my vote to Delete. Carguychris (talk) 16:52, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 17:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
2019 New York City helicopter crash
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Non notable run of the mill incident. Singular fatality and little to no notable damage to Axa Equitable Center. Even if a final report turns out of this and a major issue is found, this would most likely wrap into a seperate article. Lolzer3k 18:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, fails WP:NOTNEWS with no sustained coverage of the incident. Let me know if someone finds a suitable redirect target or more recent coverage. Esolo5002 (talk) 00:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Unremarkable crash with small toll. The incident is covered in East 34th Street Heliport#Accidents and incidents. WWGB (talk) 01:31, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT: There is a lack sustained continued coverage following the accident, with a lack of in-depth coverage and secondary sourcing, which would require analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 13:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. All the sources are WP:PRIMARYNEWS sources from immediately after the crash, and the topic fails WP:SUSTAINED per the above commenters. Epicgenius (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and @Aviationwikiflight. Tragic but WP:ROTM GA accident that attracted abundant short-term media attention simply because it happened in NYC, but clearly has not generated WP:SUSTAINED coverage. If the accident involved any significant airworthiness issue with the A109, it would have been reported before now. Carguychris (talk) 17:24, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Minor accident that recived coverage only immediatly after it, and it didn't had any notable consequence. SignorPignolini (talk) 19:22, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to The Bachelor (American TV series) season 1. Liz Read! Talk! 17:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Notable for only being the main character of The Bachelor (American TV series) season 1. Rest of his accomplishments don't reach par up to notability level, especially post-Bachelor ones. Should be redirected to the season page if not deleted. One or more of the following should apply: WP:BIO1E, WP:BLP1E, WP:PAGEDECIDE, WP:BIODELETE. George Ho (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to The_Bachelor_(American_TV_series)_season_1 -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Delete Article should be deleted as they didn't meet any WP:GNG, enough reliable references and nominations would have make them stay Tesleemah (talk) 20:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Bachelor (American TV series) season 1 per WP:ATD. Nate • (chatter) 01:24, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 15:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Jarius Page
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Fails WP:SIGCOV, WP:BIO. Promo article for a BLP. References are profiles, about us pages, blog entries and an interview. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 16:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - In agreement with @Scope creep. This article does not meet the notability requirements. - The9Man Talk 17:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. I am unable to see anything notable about the subject in the article, and a web search didn't turn up anything non-promotional. --Ahecht (TALK
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- Delete definitely fails WP:GNG and pretty blatant promotion. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 15:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Marius Chelaru (writer)
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No particular indication of notability here. The subject has participated in some random conferences, which hardly makes him encyclopedically notable.
As a side note, someone should look more closely at the article creator and his activity. He seems deeply involved with an obscure movement called Empathism (do check out that article, though fair warning: your eyes may hurt), and has been creating stubs about even more obscure figures associated with this supposed literary current.
Anyway, to return to Chelaru: nothing about his record, and certainly not the mediocre sources, suggests that he should have an article here. Thus, delete. Biruitorul Talk 15:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I don't find any coverage for this person. The Romanian wiki article seems to be sources to CV's or biographies on various websites, hardly notable either. Oaktree b (talk) 15:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I tagged the "empathism" article for clean-up, it's too wordy and over-quoted for what it's trying to day. Oaktree b (talk) 15:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it falls dangerously below WP:GNG and all other known notability guidelines. Even his listed works do not mention him and the works do not have tittles, where they were published and their identifiers such as ISBN, ISSN. Piscili (talk) 16:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - this article on a non-notable writer fails WP:GNG and WP:NAUTHOR. This article is one of a series of promotional articles (a walled garden of sorts) surrounding the so-called Empathism "movement" and the poet Menotti Lerro (who "invented" Empathism and wrote it's manifesto), and the "award" given to the people who adhere to Empathism. Other articles of questionable notability are the other "members" as well as Lerro's Cilento International Poetry Prize and others that I do not have the time at the moment to add. Two SPA's are creating numerous articles that all connect back to Lerro (hence the "walled garden"), whose article on Italian Wikipedia has been deleted for lack of notability. The whole group of articles are WP:PROMO. Netherzone (talk) 01:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, aggressive WP:PROMO. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: as per all of the above. Axad12 (talk) 04:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to RealNetworks. Liz Read! Talk! 15:28, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Not notable in the slightest. Has had an additional citations tag and a notability tag since 2013. Only sources I found are from Q&A forums and the only sources on the article don't help to establish notability. ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 15:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The review is fine, but it's mostly download links that I find. Old software that one one uses anymore, so not likely to find much of anything. Oaktree b (talk) 15:20, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with the parent company RealNetworks as one of its products or services. It does not qualify to be a stand alone article. Piscili (talk) 15:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with RealNetworks per above. Aaron Liu (talk) 16:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Not having enough references to meet the notability. Suggesting to merge with RealNetworks. - The9Man Talk 17:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to RealNetworks per above. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC) - Merge with RealNetworks: Better to merge with the parent company. GrabUp - Talk 07:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Central counterparty clearing. Malinaccier (talk) 13:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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There is insufficient WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS for this subject to pass WP:NORG. The references are WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, WP:PRIMARYSOURCES, or affiliated sources and the same applies for sources found in WP:BEFORE search. As an AtD, I propose a redirect to Central counterparty clearing. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Central counterparty clearing, per nom. I failed to find decent independent WP:RS when I tagged it as needing more sources, and probably should have nominated it then. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:53, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was draftify. ✗plicit 11:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Tobiáš Diviš
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I cannot find any evidence of notability for this Slovak men's footballer to meet WP:GNG. He only played 48 matches in lower leagues. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 12:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: The correct facts are 23 matches in Slovakia's highest league and 30 in the second league. Geschichte (talk) 21:20, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 14:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify: While they don't seem notable at the moment, they could 100% have coverage around them in the future. Article seems in okay shape, so I'd rather move it to draftspace where it can be worked on rather that a flat-out deletion. SirMemeGod 17:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article is nominated for deletion by the base it fails WP:GNG. References are poorly-formatted too. I don't think Diviš will gain any significant coverage in the future, since the clubs he has played for are certainly not well-known outside Slovakia, but of course we won't make WP:CRYSTALBALL predictions. In its current state, the article is written like a database or directory and does not contain anything about what Diviš accomplished to prove that he deserves a Wikipedia article. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 13:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- The clubs don't need to be well-known outside of Slovakia. We only need reliable sources from within Slovakia. Being notable in one location is enough for an entry in the English Wikipedia. How the references are formatted is not a reason for deletion. Geschichte (talk) 07:18, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article is nominated for deletion by the base it fails WP:GNG. References are poorly-formatted too. I don't think Diviš will gain any significant coverage in the future, since the clubs he has played for are certainly not well-known outside Slovakia, but of course we won't make WP:CRYSTALBALL predictions. In its current state, the article is written like a database or directory and does not contain anything about what Diviš accomplished to prove that he deserves a Wikipedia article. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 13:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify per above. Active first-tier player who has also made his U21 international debut, there is coverage at the moment but not significant enough yet. I am also bewildered by some of the statements by the nominator. Geschichte (talk) 07:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 23:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Killing of Michael Mohn
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This feels like a violation of WP:NOTNEWS Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 07:35, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, does not appear to be a notable crime. Coverage appears to be generally local and mostly primary sources. Esolo5002 (talk) 14:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- many wikipedia articles are not "notable", however this is accredited for being well documented, including his motives and disturbing video. 67.108.47.118 (talk) 18:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Just a note that a previous article on this subject was deleted at Justin Mohn as an attack page. Liz Read! Talk! 06:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: not likely meeting criminal notability; I can only find coverage from this past February when he was also facing terrorism charges... Then silence. Strange crime, but the media seems to have moved on. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Thinking Ape Blues
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 11:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I can find several blogs discussing the series, but the only site approaching RS is possibly this one: [18], which is a passing mention. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 22:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I suppose. I can't find a mention of it in my literature besides Ted Rall's book. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:30, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Doppelganger Week
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Fails WP:PERSISTENCE, it looks like it was only the February 2010 event that received any press coverage. I can find a February 2019 video where a morning TV show celebrates a "National Doppelganger Week", but they don't seem to be framing it as part of an internet meme. Belbury (talk) 09:50, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete limited short term coverage, not notable, didn’t continue as a strong meme. Wrong website for this. Absurdum4242 (talk) 19:43, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Indeed does fail WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Couldn't find any source from the last 10 years about this specific event. Special mention to the talk page comments. win8x (talking | spying) 21:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 11:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Vighnesh Pande
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Clearly fails WP:GNG, just some routine coverage. Youknow? (talk) 09:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Some coverage from when he was on TV, but nothing since... I don't think he meets celebrity notability, seems to have faded away. Oaktree b (talk) 15:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The sources are not strong and fail to meet WP:SIGCOV. The subject is not notable enough for a standalone article and fails WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 07:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Finsbury railway line. ✗plicit 11:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Despite the name, this wasn't an actual public train station. From the article: "Due to the line being for industrial purposes, it never really carried actual passenger train services apart from some trains that were scheduled for the workers" although this isn't cited to anything. The existing sources are useless; one is a single word mention that doesn't even support the content it is cited to, and the other is a YouTube video. A basic BEFORE search did not turn up anything promising. At best, this could be redirected to Finsbury railway line. Pygos (talk) 09:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: A freight-only station is still a train station. Once notable, always notable. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:51, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Train stations are not automatically notable, as established by overwhelming community consensus. Please stop spreading this falsehood. This is not the first time you've been reminded. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to Woodville North, South Australia#transport, as part of that community's history. Djflem (talk) 11:57, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a little confused as to why you copied my recent AfD nomination word for word. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:34, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I did, but I thought the two situations as remarkably similar and that your remarks hold extremely fitting. I hope that no problem is aroused. Pygos (talk) 13:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Having evaluated the article and AfD I can't take any exception to it since the facts are basically the same. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:14, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I did, but I thought the two situations as remarkably similar and that your remarks hold extremely fitting. I hope that no problem is aroused. Pygos (talk) 13:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing in google news or books or Australian database Trove. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 23:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Finsbury railway line: Fails GNG. Not suitable for a merge as none of the sources are reliable. It is suitable for a redirect as it is mentioned at Finsbury railway line. TarnishedPathtalk 09:21, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Finsbury railway line. TarnishedPath makes a sound argument. Even if reliable sources could be found, secondary or even primary, depending on their significance there could still be an argument to add it to the Finsbury railway line page rather than having a separate page. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 05:38, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Ehraz Ahmad
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Repeatedly recreated and already full salted at Ehraz Ahmed, appears to have been created under this title to circumvent the salting. Tagged for G4 for an administrator to check if it was the same as the deleted version, as, despite most sources having a retrieval date of 2024-09-21, they were much older and possibly already in use at the time. Speedy was declined twice by an IP, so here we are again. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 08:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Should be speedied in case the original author is a sock. I also believe this is a case of undisclosed paid editing: promotional tone, lots of weasel words, as well as a mixture of reliable and unreliable sources. In case this person is actually notable, I suggest TNT-ing. A09|(talk) 09:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Still a !delete, appears to be PROMO. Recreation after salting is a bad sign. Oaktree b (talk) 15:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fundamentally nothing has changed since the first two AFDs, still WP:ADMASQ that is sourced from paid placements and passing mentions which are insufficient to write a neutral verifiable article. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:DDCB:DE19:D77:8499 (talk) 23:13, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 08:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
List of Veterans Benefits Administration regional offices
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Fails WP:NLIST - Wikipedia is not a directory for listing government's regional offices (that's what the Department's website is for - no indication any of these offices are remotely notable. Dan arndt (talk) 08:22, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per NLIST and WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Ajf773 (talk) 09:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. Liz Read! Talk! 04:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: A search reveals that there exists no (significant) news coverage of the event, no secondary sources, no in-depth coverage, no continued coverage, no demonstrated lasting effects and no long-term impact on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 07:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:N. There are no independent, reliable sources of information about this crash. The ASN source cites airdisaster.ru as its source of information, airdisaster.ru does not cite any sources itself and has been the topic of a past discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_446#airdisaster.ru. Most of the currently uncited material in the article is a close paraphrase of the limited information that appears on airdisaster.ru, and the baaa-acro.com source is a WP:SPS. I've spent some time trying to find even a brief mention of this accident in reliable sources, and have failed. While Wikipedia's notability guideline is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the current state of sourcing in an article, the policy does state that information on Wikipedia must be verifiable; if no reliable, independent sources can be found on a topic, then it should not have a separate article. RecycledPixels (talk) 18:15, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
MergeRedirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. Incident is sufficiently covered there.Once suitable sources are found, it can be made a standalone article. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Soviet aviation task force/Notability.Meltdown627 (talk) 16:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s per above. BilletsMauves€500 08:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Aeroflot accidents and incidents in the 1950s. There was some information in the article missing from the table, but I've already copied it over. --Ahecht (TALK
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 04:55, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Davood Noroozi
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No inherent notability, fails WP:GNG, WP:NPOL or WP:ANYBIO. BEFORE was not productive. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I was unable to find anything notable but if someone finds some sources in German or Farsi please ping me. Dr vulpes (Talk) 07:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Smyrna, Decatur County, Indiana
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A 4tgh class post office, not a town. There's almost nothing there, and what little there is was mostly built in the 1950s. Mangoe (talk) 13:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is there something wrong with being built in the 1950's? Of the "almost nothing", does that indicate there is actually something there? — Maile (talk) 14:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- There are two modern houses and one older, with no obvious relationship to each other. Three houses vaguely near each other is not a town, and in any case the name of the spot is much older. Mangoe (talk) 12:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
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- The problem, as detained in WP:GNIS, is that its compilers read names off maps fairly indiscriminately, resulting in the "creation" of a lot of "places" that aren't really there. Completeness is thus a problem target because when we ask "completeness of what?" we already have an answer in WP:GEOLAND. Mangoe (talk) 02:22, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I can't believe I have to ask this, but, as this place seems to be existent, just very obscure, should this article be kept just for the sake of completeness of Decatur County, Indiana? It's obviously not up to WP:NGEO, but so are many of the other articles in Decatur County, Indiana, like Knarr Corner, Indiana and New Pennington, Indiana. Deleting this would mean that many other articles of similar quality should be deleted. I recognize this situation similar to that discussed in Wikipedia talk:Notability#RfC: Notability and British Rail stations. Is this place notable just for existing? What do you think? Pygos (talk) 11:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. A few houses existing in the vicinity of a GNIS-scraped place name does not a town make. JoelleJay (talk) 15:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 05:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Nyrika Holkar
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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Majorly citations are WP:ADMASQ, and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. TCBT1CSI (talk) 12:11, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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Jorge Pan
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There doesn't seem to be significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 08:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 06:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Art of Sound (exhibition) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 14:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: further expansion of the article and context was needed. AlphaLemur (talk) 01:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep after the recent improvements. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:33, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 14:47, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Tanha Dar Mazrae
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No reliable sources (a.k.a. no wiki links) and no reliable reviews. This may fail Wikipedia:Notability (films). This article about a short film is short because no other sources exist.
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sayeye Penhan. I am also nominating the following related page because it is also is sourced by a similar website (akhbarrasmi, is it notable?):
- Seyed Mohammad Mousavi Noor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) DareshMohan (talk) 07:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:57, 16 September 2024 (UTC)- I saw this movie in Iranian cinema.
- Khosli is attractive and spectacular and this movie has found many fans.
- In our opinion, Iranians, this is the best movie in the Middle East, and if there is a little source now, it is because this movie has just been waiting and the article will gradually mature and grow, and I ask you not to show too much sensitivity on this issue and let it remain an article to avoid wiki law. 5.233.227.181 (talk) 17:43, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- This article should stay in English Wikipedia 5.233.231.50 (talk) 20:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe. Then I suggest to Drafitfy this and you can improve it, please. Some sources exist in the corresponding article in
ParsiArabic (or sources you might have found in Persian). And ImDB says it is a short......that is 4 hours ad 10 minutes long..... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC) (edited, thanks, Svartner :D)
- Maybe. Then I suggest to Drafitfy this and you can improve it, please. Some sources exist in the corresponding article in
- This article should stay in English Wikipedia 5.233.231.50 (talk) 20:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – The sources are insufficient to establish WP:SIGCOV, there is a related article on ar.wiki, but nothing in Persian. Svartner (talk) 21:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- !Thanks! will correct my blunder.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 22:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not enough for significant coverage and source Akhbarrasmi's reliability is very questionable because it is a newswire platform that offers intuitive PR dashboards, PR campaign management, and press release solutions. Still no WP:SIGCOV and fails WP:NFILM. RangersRus (talk) 14:37, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Power sector of Andhra Pradesh. Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Andhra Pradesh Central Power Distribution Corporation Limited (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Single ref is effectively WP:OR. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 06:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - Significant organization, state-owned power distributor having vast network and consumer base, has more than one reliable citations now. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:53, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- We will go through your new references to check them. scope_creepTalk 19:06, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited, presumably into a "regional operations" section. Dan • ✉ 15:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with a totally unrelated company? Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited is a power generation company owned by Andhra Pradesh state government, the Andhra Pradesh state government owns lots of companies.
- The Power Generation Corporation generates and supplies power to not only this distribution company but it supplies power to whole Power Grid of India. So according to me it doesn't make sense to merge two separate companies just because they sound same or owned by same owner. They are literally DIFFERENT COMPANIES. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It states here: [19]] that the electricity generators were deregulated in 1999. The main monolithic supplier APSEB was split into a grid supplier and the Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited. The regional generator were split off from this organisation into regional supplier. They are all owned by Andhra Pradesh government. Even though they are seperate companies, they can be one article, because all companies are owned by one entity. scope_creepTalk 16:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- 10s of companies are owned by Andhra Pradesh state government, it is still unfair and doesn't make sense to merge, just because they are owned by the same party. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:23, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge/Redirect to Power sector of Andhra Pradesh as these companies are just divided by districts and don't do anything different from each other than manage their assigned district; if this was a regular business we would probably merge under the same grounds. Nate • (chatter) 22:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Power sector of Andhra Pradesh. Star Mississippi 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NCORP. No indication of significance. scope_creepTalk 06:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - Significant organization, state-owned power distributor having vast network and consumer base. Google search reflects a lot of sources showing the kind of significance the org. holds. Thewikizoomer (talk) 18:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I see no valid sources. Please identify them for us. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 20:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited, presumably into a "regional operations" section. Dan • ✉ 15:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with a totally unrelated company? Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited is a power generation company owned by Andhra Pradesh state government, the Andhra Pradesh state government owns lots of companies.
- The Power Generation Corporation generates and supplies power to not only this distribution company but it supplies power to whole Power Grid of India. So according to me it doesn't make sense to merge two separate companies just because they sound same or owned by same owner. They are literally DIFFERENT COMPANIES. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Thewikizoomer: If you don't stop WP:BLUDGEONing every comment that made has been made on this, I will take you to WP:ANI. scope_creepTalk 16:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- This appears like a personal attack, accusing other users of doing something that they are not and within accordance with Wikipedia policies is personal attack. I can take you to WP:ANI and instead of threatening, you can directly take it there. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Scope creep FYI... Thewikizoomer is a politically exposed editor, presumably hired or paid by the current Government of Andhra Pradesh. Their edit history is quite openly visible. It looks like taking the ANI route is the only viable option. Charlie (talk) 17:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Thewikizoomer: If you don't stop WP:BLUDGEONing every comment that made has been made on this, I will take you to WP:ANI. scope_creepTalk 16:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It states here: [20] that the electricity generators were deregulated in 1999. The main monolithic supplier APSEB was split into a grid supplier and the Andhra Pradesh Power Generation Corporation Limited. The regional generator were split off from this organisation into regional supplier. They are all owned by Andhra Pradesh government. Even though they are seperate companies, they can be one article, because all companies are owned by one entity. scope_creepTalk 16:32, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- 10s of companies are owned by Andhra Pradesh state government, it is still unfair and doesn't make sense to merge, just because they are owned by the same party. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:21, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Similar to another AfD discussion... Independently, this company doesn't qualify for its own Wikipedia page as it doesn't meet the WP:NCORP and WP:ORGCRIT. A merger is also not feasible since it isn't a direct subsidiary of APPGCL. Charlie (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- The references cited independently cover the subject (this article), could you elaborate on the unsatisfying criteria as you mentioned so this can be cleared
- Refs. covering subject independently:
- https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/apepdcl-in-visakhapatnam-registers-record-energy-consumption-of-over-92-million-units-on-april-17/article66770369.ece
- https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/apepdcl-en-route-to-providing-24-hour-three-phase-power-supply-to-117-lakh-rural-households-by-2025/article68233086.ece
- https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/andhra-pradesh/apepdcl-takes-the-smart-route-to-reduce-evasion-of-bills-by-government-offices/article68513158.ece
- https://www.apeasternpower.com/companyInformation
- https://www.deccanchronicle.com/southern-states/andhra-pradesh/600-member-apepdcl-team-to-restore-vijayawada-power-1821221
- https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/current-affairs/apepdcl-bags-two-national-awards-for-power-performance-881729
- https://web.archive.org/web/20180310201040/https://www.apeasternpower.com/epdcl/EPDCL_Home.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=EPDCL_Home_portal_page_156_page_157_page_158
- https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/new-cmd-of-apepdcl-assumes-charge-in-visakhapatnam/article66752592.ece Thewikizoomer (talk) 15:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Thewikizoomer I have noticed your actions on the NTPC Power Plant pages I created as per WP:NBUILDING rule. This seems to be driven by a sense of vengeance. Unlike you, I have no personal stake in whether these pages remain, get merged, or are deleted. However, your conduct goes against the core principles of Wikipedia editing. It appears you have been hired or paid by the current Andhra Pradesh government, as you have been consistently trying to delete pages related to the previous administration and updating those pages of those subjects which are managed by the current adminstration. I don't need to deep dive much as you are exposing yourself through your actions. It's time for you to be honest. Charlie (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't respond to personal attacks and this is not a place for that either. Nor do I have any personal stake on what page remains, gets merged, gets deleted, gets featured, gets GA tag, etc. The "driven by sense of vengeance" is a flat statement that came out of clear misunderstanding.
- I don't know whether if you are the creator of the any of the articles that I have nominated for merger. I use twinkle tool to notify the user that has created the article of any actions that are taking place. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also note that I have proposed a lot of mergers in Wikipedia and I am active in doing them. Regarding the NTPC Power Plant articles, I'm following the list of projects mentioned in the NTPC Limited article. Thewikizoomer (talk) 17:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Thewikizoomer I have noticed your actions on the NTPC Power Plant pages I created as per WP:NBUILDING rule. This seems to be driven by a sense of vengeance. Unlike you, I have no personal stake in whether these pages remain, get merged, or are deleted. However, your conduct goes against the core principles of Wikipedia editing. It appears you have been hired or paid by the current Andhra Pradesh government, as you have been consistently trying to delete pages related to the previous administration and updating those pages of those subjects which are managed by the current adminstration. I don't need to deep dive much as you are exposing yourself through your actions. It's time for you to be honest. Charlie (talk) 17:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge / Redirect to Power sector of Andhra Pradesh as suggested by Nate over at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andhra Pradesh Southern Power Distribution Company Limited. The sources added to this article are WP:ORGTRIV, and this company fails WP:NCORP on its own. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/Redirect per Dclemens as these companies are just divided by districts and don't do anything different other than manage their assigned district; if this was a regular business we would probably merge under the same grounds. Nate • (chatter) 22:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. The Delete views carry significantly more P&G weight than the Keep ones, resulting in a rough consensus. Owen× ☎ 18:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Chimele Usuwa Abengowe
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Firstly, the content on ref 1 which is a magazine can't be verified by any reliable source same as ref 5. Ref 2 and ref 5 are also the same link on the article current state. The only source here was this which just only talk about his death. Ref 7 which is a YouTube video showcasing a church service cant be use as a source neither any YouTube link can be use as a source. Ref 3 which just only mentioned his name as part of the medical list and not like he was talked about. Subject just totally fails WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 01:15, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Clearly a much respected citizen but WP:NOTMEMORIAL Xxanthippe (talk) 01:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- thank you for your response. Please note that @Gabriel601 has been trolling my articles and marking them for deletion. There's an established case of "nominations in bad faith here". Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- welcome again for marking another article of mine for deletion. After the last episode, you should have recused yourself from my articles and leave other editors to go through and arrive at their own conclusions. Cfaso2000 (talk) 05:28, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: I can't verify certain details about this person like the date of birth and death. My search for the various information yielded "result not found" and I was wondering about the origin of other information like the award, OFR. After all these, I can say that the article doesn't meet WP:NPROF and WP:SIGCOV. Also, Gabriel's source analysis is thorough and well-documented. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Due to being a recipient of one of Nigeria's highest national awards (WP:ANYBIO The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor) National Honour of Member of the Order of the Niger (OON) by President Olusegun Obasanjo on the 16th November, 2000 - now sourced to Federal Republic of Nigeria Official Gazette. (Msrasnw (talk) 09:48, 10 September 2024 (UTC))
- The link you provided still doesn’t have his name on it that the president honors him with the title of OON. I opened the link used the control+F to find and paste his name still zero not found. Subject still fails WP:GNG. Gabriel (……?) 10:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- It has on page 605 as the third entry.... under the heading OFFICER OF THE ORDER OF THE NIGER (OON) Professor C. U. Abengowe ... Abia
- https://archive.gazettes.africa/archive/ng/2000/ng-government-gazette-dated-2000-10-09-no-69.pdf Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 11:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC))
- @Msrasnw, winning an award is a WP policy/guide that WP:SIGCOV may exist for an article. Oppositely, there isn't any coverage for this article, hence doesn't meet our general notability guidelines. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:38, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think there is significant coverage in Nigerian media for eg in an important newspaper Independent Nigeria ... we have Emejor, Chibuzor (2023) NGO Immortalises Prof Abengowe, Featured News, Independent Sep 4 [21]
- and Vision Africa (2013) Professor Abengowe Chimele Usuwa: Pragmatic Icon In The Field Of Teaching And Guidance, Profiles, Vision Africa 08/04 [22] And here (https://archive.upf.org/united-nations/international-day-of-peace/2013/5312-conference-in-abuja-on-education-and-national-development) he is giving a keynote at a serious conference. And there is lots more. I think it is shame that too many Wikipedia editors are too willing to delete what are to my mind clearly notable people that can with a little effort be reasonably sourced. (Msrasnw (talk) 16:18, 13 September 2024 (UTC))
- Vision Africa is a non notable platform. Upf is a non notable platform. There is till nothing notable about this man as per Wikipedia notability. If he was that respected a lot of news papers would have carried his news death. But nothing rather than just one news that’s not even all about his death. Gabriel (……?) 13:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- https://archive.gazettes.africa/archive/ng/2000/ng-government-gazette-dated-2000-10-09-no-69.pdf Best wishes (Msrasnw (talk) 11:07, 10 September 2024 (UTC))
- Keep. Subject satisfies notability guidelines as have been severally outlined above. Cfaso2000 (talk) 13:25, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- One source ain't enough to justify notability. Other editors needs to be aware ‘Cfaso2000’ was the article creator. Gabriel (……?) 11:36, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 06:14, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- Keep. Seems to me he has distinguished service. Notable award too methinks.Unfortunate coverage isn’t wider. 102.91.4.54 (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- You should have just created an account to vote a keep. All this keep from newbies are now just suspicious. Gabriel (……?) 18:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Been here for 12 yrs. 102.91.4.54 (talk) 19:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- You should have just created an account to vote a keep. All this keep from newbies are now just suspicious. Gabriel (……?) 18:18, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Seems to me he has distinguished service. Notable award too methinks.Unfortunate coverage isn’t wider. 102.91.4.54 (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Keep : Subject meet WP:Notable and there are enough references to back it up Tesleemah (talk) 08:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The sources provided are not enough to meet WP:GNG. VisionAfrica seems to be the most in-depth, but I could not verify its reliability - it's not listed on the RS Noticeboard. There's no WP:SIGCOV to justify an article at this time.DesiMoore (talk) 15:52, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- You don't just make claims, @Tesleemah. You may need to present the sources you're speaking of. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:23, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: SOURCE ANALYSIS:
1. Vision Africa is an unreliable source per WP:NGRS. ✗ Fail
2. gazettes.africa is an archive of the government gazettes of African countries, hence, it's reliable and correctly defined the content. ✓ Pass
3. I will conder BLERF as reliable because it's been published by Nyaknno Osso, but it lacks indepth coverage and it's a listing of primary generated information. In other words, a database cannot be used as a source. ✗ Fail
4. It lists medical practitioners registered in Nigeria, but it wasn't independent of Jim, and doesn't show his career. It was only a list. ✗ Fail
5.Same as source 1
6. same as source 3
7. Without having doubts, and although Independent Newspaper (Nigeria) is reliable, the article reads like a paid publication. It's a coverage and statements by the organization who made a statue/thereabout for him.✗ Fail
8. YouTube is unreliable and the source (username that it was gotten from) of the video is very very unreliable ✗ FailFinal analysis: being awarded an award may meet WP:ANYBIO. However, all these SNGs are ways to know that there may exist likely coverage about the person. Here, there is no coverage (significant) of this individual. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)- @SafariScribeThanks for your source analysis. I have concerns regarding No 7 analysis. Your statement "the organization who made a statue/thereabout for him" appears to attribute the statue to the organization mentioned in the article. This is not the case based on my reading of the article again. Nowhere in the Independent Newspaper(Nigeria) article was it mentioned that the organization created a statue for him, and I haven't found that in any other sources analysed above. The organization mentioned in this article immortalized him by naming their lecture/conference series after the subject. Regarding being a paid publication, I'm not sure about that. The subject was resting on his deathbed and an organization "probably sponsored" news articles about him, or another probability is "they attracted news attention" to his death. I really can't vouch for any organization regarding how news content emanated. But I would give the benefit of doubt, given that the subject was deceased, and being a prominent person, would attract some coverage. Whether the coverage is facilitated or not is uncertain. I don't think this source should be considered as having failed. Cfaso2000 (talk) 12:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Cfaso2000, about source 7, see WP:PRSOURCE. Best, Reading Beans 08:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SafariScribeThanks for your source analysis. I have concerns regarding No 7 analysis. Your statement "the organization who made a statue/thereabout for him" appears to attribute the statue to the organization mentioned in the article. This is not the case based on my reading of the article again. Nowhere in the Independent Newspaper(Nigeria) article was it mentioned that the organization created a statue for him, and I haven't found that in any other sources analysed above. The organization mentioned in this article immortalized him by naming their lecture/conference series after the subject. Regarding being a paid publication, I'm not sure about that. The subject was resting on his deathbed and an organization "probably sponsored" news articles about him, or another probability is "they attracted news attention" to his death. I really can't vouch for any organization regarding how news content emanated. But I would give the benefit of doubt, given that the subject was deceased, and being a prominent person, would attract some coverage. Whether the coverage is facilitated or not is uncertain. I don't think this source should be considered as having failed. Cfaso2000 (talk) 12:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. ✗plicit 05:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Skagit Environmental Endowment Commission (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NCORP for not having significant coverage of independent, reliable sources for verification. Cassiopeia talk 00:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I think with enough digging that sources could be coughed up. I have three sources ([23][24][25]) but they might be WP:PRIMARY or may not do enough coverage of the topic at hand. ✶Quxyz✶ 00:52, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- If it is kept, I might work on improving this article. ✶Quxyz✶ 00:53, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - the Narwhal reference is excellent! I can't see the text of the Seattle Times one. See also this article in BC Studies. It's hard to imagine that a binational commission with jurisdiction on the environment wouldn't be notable. Nfitz (talk) 19:23, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Per the arguments above. Sources are present which can be incorporated into the article. Though they barely take it past GNG, they can be used for expansion. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 04:57, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 06:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Dhiraj Sonawane
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Moved to mainspace, perhaps before it is ready. I certainly do not see any pass of WP:NPROF here. The best sources in the article look like human interest coverage of surgeries by the subject, and I think they fall a bit short of WP:BASIC. My search did not find much more. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 05:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep. This is a malformed AfD Apparently the page is being targeted for deletion because the page had so many bugs it was straight up targeted for AFD instead of being cleaned and fixed a lot. should consider why the page is being targeted for deletion. which the article subject easily meets, is WP:GNG India Today has significant coverage in reliable sources such as the India Today newspaper also Passes WP:NGEO I don't believe the nominator checked all sources. However, there does appear to be in-depth coverage in sources which I assess as probably reliable, covering multiple events / aspects of this WP:BLP.Monophile 💬 11:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The article makes no claim to notability - he runs a department at a hospital, no named chair professorship, nothing showing he's a big player within his discipline. I have reviewed all the citations and see nothing but routine mentions and quotes, other than what looks like a complex spine surgery case (but WP:BLP1E suggests this would need to have lasting impact). GScholar shows some papers with low citation counts (there's a DP Sonawane who has some high-citation counts, but U.S. based and unlikely to be this gentleman).@Monophile you should spend some time familiarizing yourself with the various notability policies and guidelines especially those for living persons and professors. Had you done this you'd probably agree the deletion rationale is clear. Continuing to create these articles may be a waste of time, both yours and other editors', if the article subjects are unable to meet notability rules. Oblivy (talk) 07:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Now it can be see that both the users, @Oblivy, @Russ Woodroofe are being targeted this page will be created from my account. It can be clearly seen in the previous AFD how they like to target and vote for delete pages.here It is with great regret that I have to say There are Millions of editors and users on Wikipedia, they should get a chance to review the page and see how it is done. The page is targeted without checking the references without checking the page itself These users should be stopped from doing this continuously, this is the urine of Vandalism is being done continuously on Wikipedia etc. of their account edits here, here are checked, they are just constantly targeting this pages. Continuously targeting a page should not be acceptable on Wikipedia. It is a violation of Wikipedia's guidelines. Monophile 💬 01:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Every editor has the right to give his opinion on AFD lmatters, the manner in which two User @Oblivy, @Russ Woodroofe target some Pages is tantamount to disrupting the Wikipedia." Monophile 💬 02:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Page reads as resume and WP:PROMO page. The subject has not made any significant achievement notable, nationally or internationally, to warrant a page on him. Fails WP:NPROF. RangersRus (talk) 11:31, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment @Monophile: the image used in the article is a posed photo of Sonawane, which you uploaded to Commons at File:Dhiraj Sonawane.jpg as your own work. What's your connection with Mr. Sonawane please? Wikishovel (talk) 12:59, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Alternate explanation, common for this sort of situation, is that it was stolen from social-media or a similar site. But we do need an immediate and clear explanation from the uploader on commons (need to keep license concerns on that site) or it will be promptly deleted. DMacks (talk) 13:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. None of the reliable sources here provide any in-depth information about Sonawane as a person, they are all either about his surgeries or his comments as an expert on medical topics. Had those surgeries been made on high-profile individuals (like federal politicians or other important figures), or even received more in-depth coverage by high-quality reliable sources, I would probably have leaned more to keeping, but the current sources are pretty run-off-the-mill. Badbluebus (talk) 17:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Speedily closed per consensus and nominator's withdrawal. (non-admin closure) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 17:38, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Iyana-Iba, Lagos State (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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article does not meet WP:GNG and No significance importance aside they are opened by a former president, all references are not significant coverage of the subject Tesleemah (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC) Withdrawn by nominator Following further information and discussion, the article might stand for now with some improvement Tesleemah (talk) 04:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment : This now looks like another frustrated newbie on wikipedia. Like common what do you guys take Wikipedia for? Where you come to create war zone?. People like you have been warned here by @Timtrent:, @Reading Beans: and @Star Mississippi:. You can also listen to the advice of @Liz: at here because your similar behavioural act happened here which I won't be explaining to you further as its a waste of time. You just have to go and read that AFD and understand too well what WP: GEOFEAT says about. You should be busy trying to provide reasonable source to your article De General than making no sense of yourself.
"aside they are opened by a former president"
You are the one who said that statement. Don't that still sound notable to you as per WP:NGEO. I believe for you to say such you have a source to that. Beside, Iyana-Iba in Lagos State is a populated and legalised area. I hope one day to take a picture of that place soon. Cheers and this is my last statement to you on this AFD. No time for pointless arguments. --Gabriel (……?) 10:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)- You can also visit my user page if you are interested at looking at the beautiful places of pictures I have taken. Cheers. Gabriel (……?) 10:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw them. Cheers! Tesleemah (talk) 10:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- There wasn’t any reason to ping me though but FWIW, Iyana-Iba (where this should be) passes NPLACE, IMO and this nomination seems to be, yet, another bad faith nomination. Best, reading beans 10:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Should the closer interpret this as an opinion either to keep or as a speedy keep? It would help if you would say explicitly what you summaries your thoughts as. Article title can be handled later. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Timtrent, this is a speedy keep on my end. Sources found in a WPBEFORE attempt satisfies NPLACE. The nominator is not knowledgeable enough on relevant criteria's and seems to be unwilling to learn. Best, reading beans 13:14, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Reading Beans Should the closer interpret this as an opinion either to keep or as a speedy keep? It would help if you would say explicitly what you summaries your thoughts as. Article title can be handled later. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I believe you had mistaken this AfD to be opened by another editor you had issue with previously.
- This was in good faith as I even supported your AfD here, I can't find where we had been on logheads over here or anywhere else. So I will imploy you to be calm.
- Perhaps the article should be merged with the main subject Lagos as the references were not major cover of the subject, see the following references you added this and this. How is RTEAN and fire outbreak related to the road? Tesleemah (talk) 10:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t care about support on an AfD and I’m just seeing that. You have to say your mind on what is right without doing anything in favor of the nominator. Also your reason for a merge is still pointless. The lekki, Mainland, Ajah and so on that was talked about on the Lagos State article don’t they have an article of their own?. You should just say we should start merging all the Lagos market to Lagos State article because of a pointless reason. Even the Alaba International Market was never mentioned in the Lagos State article despite its a well known popular area. You mentioned a statement above of which I believe they are sources you must have seen to say such, so add them to the article as it’s a part of improvement to the article. this also satisfies. Iyana-iba it’s not just a road. it’s also a market place and the Lagos State University lies in there. Why I’m I even saying this much to a Yoruba lady who is supposed to know this. Go and do your research and have a lovely day. Gabriel (……?) 12:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also talking about being calm, of course I am with my Cannabis looking forward to a better days. Gabriel (……?) 12:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll let the discussion run its course but please bear in mind I don't have any grudges against you Tesleemah (talk) 12:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t care about support on an AfD and I’m just seeing that. You have to say your mind on what is right without doing anything in favor of the nominator. Also your reason for a merge is still pointless. The lekki, Mainland, Ajah and so on that was talked about on the Lagos State article don’t they have an article of their own?. You should just say we should start merging all the Lagos market to Lagos State article because of a pointless reason. Even the Alaba International Market was never mentioned in the Lagos State article despite its a well known popular area. You mentioned a statement above of which I believe they are sources you must have seen to say such, so add them to the article as it’s a part of improvement to the article. this also satisfies. Iyana-iba it’s not just a road. it’s also a market place and the Lagos State University lies in there. Why I’m I even saying this much to a Yoruba lady who is supposed to know this. Go and do your research and have a lovely day. Gabriel (……?) 12:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- You can also visit my user page if you are interested at looking at the beautiful places of pictures I have taken. Cheers. Gabriel (……?) 10:12, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep: This place passes all the relevant criteria for notability for a geographic element. It would save time were the nominator to choose to withdraw, otherwise I suppose we'll have to plough on for a while 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 13:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 03:46, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Max Trejo
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Played two professional games in MLS Next Pro and now plays for a university. Everything I could find from a Google search was related directly to his career at Ohio State University (almost all of it coming from OSU match reports and write ups). At this point, it looks like this fails WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 02:30, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - does not meet WP:GNG. Demt1298 (talk) 17:25, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Not finding much about this subject outside of routine match reports. Fails WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 23:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Like WTF is with this article, over a hundred citations? On what exactly? Looking through the citations, it felt like WP:PRIMARY social media posting with a load of cite's pointing at stuff nothing really to do with this person. I really don't know what to make of it. I probably would delete because it feels like trash to me. Govvy (talk) 08:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Per WP:GNG, he is not notable. XxTechnicianxX (talk) 19:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article. To the nominator, please do not nominate an article for an AFD discussion if you are just looking to improve the article's content and sourcing. That can happen outside of a deletion discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Metal Storm (webzine) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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OK, this seems to be something of a borderline notability case. I'm nominating this because there may be decent sourcing that exists to establish notability, but also because this could potentially wind up getting deleted in the end. There was no consensus about this article at AfD back in 2008, but many of the "keep" votes from back then could only cite things like Google search results and sponsorships (see WP:INHERITED), when not just resorting to copouts with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Most of the sources cited are WP:PRIMARY, and I can't find much information about this site via Google outside of unreliable, WP:NOTRSMUSIC databases. I'm not saying this positively needs to go, but if it's going to stay, it needs serious improvements. But for now, I would like to invite other people to comment with what they think. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:55, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Simple Google search shows that, Metalstorm.net has been referenced by multiple reliable publications. I'm a little busy now, but I will try to conduct a full search later. dxneo (talk) 08:48, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting that comes up on your end. Googling Metal Storm on my end only comes up with promotional, user-generated and wiki (including WP:CIRCULAR) results. Definitely share what you can find when you're available, I might change my position based on what you provide. JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:52, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Try removing the space between "MetalStorm" and search on ProQuest or Google Scholar. Using "MetalStorm.net" helped me find more specifically where people had cited it. Why? I Ask (talk) 02:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting that comes up on your end. Googling Metal Storm on my end only comes up with promotional, user-generated and wiki (including WP:CIRCULAR) results. Definitely share what you can find when you're available, I might change my position based on what you provide. JeffSpaceman (talk) 11:52, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: This is not a nomination to be taken lightly considering that 500+ pages link to it (since it is used as a widely cited source). I can see it listed in Metaldata: A Bibliography of Heavy Metal Resources as a prominent review site and Alternative Cultures and Leisure: Creating Pathways for Sustainable Livelihoods highlights it as a notable forum. At the very least, it is cited in several books by academic publications (those by McFarland & Company, Waxmann Verlag, and Bloomsbury), so it clearly does not exist in a self-contained bubble. Why? I Ask (talk) 02:01, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I will quibble with the idea that its status as a widely linked to source makes it notable (there are reliable sources on Wikipedia that are not notable and vice versa), I do have to admit you found better sourcing than I could find. Once again, a WP:BEFORE search on my end could only locate unreliable, WP:USERGEN sites, so thank you for offering these books as sources, which definitely contribute to meeting WP:GNG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 10:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I see someone beat me to it. I would definitely lean towards keep per above. dxneo (talk) 11:38, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I will quibble with the idea that its status as a widely linked to source makes it notable (there are reliable sources on Wikipedia that are not notable and vice versa), I do have to admit you found better sourcing than I could find. Once again, a WP:BEFORE search on my end could only locate unreliable, WP:USERGEN sites, so thank you for offering these books as sources, which definitely contribute to meeting WP:GNG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 10:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above. Pelmeen10 (talk) 18:24, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to List of football clubs in India#Kerala. Liz Read! Talk! 01:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails the general notability guideline, which is the recommended guideline for teams under the sports sub-guideline. Many of the sources cited in the article are unreliable, and the ones that are don't have significant coverage. Quickly searching for more sources did not turn up anything else. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 01:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nomination. Tried searching for SIGCOV in reliable sources in English and Malayalam (റിയൽ മലബാർ എഫ്.സി.), and the best I could come up with was routine coverage in Mathrubhumi [26], [27], and passing mentions in Madhyamam [28], The Hindu [29], the Times of India [30] and Kerala Kaumudi [31],[32], nothing substantial enough for WP:GNG.
- This article has a long history of sockpuppetry, as shown in the linked SPI and its archive. It should have been speedy deleted G5, but the latest creator account is stuck in the SPI backlog, so it's not technically eligible. Real Malabar F.C. is EC-protected, but it's been recreated under several spelling variants in draft and main space: this one was originally created as Real Malabar F.C, and moved to main space by a now blocked sock. Wikishovel (talk) 08:32, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't want to bring up the sockpuppetry allegations until the SPI had gone through, but the page creator WikiSarfu has now been blocked. If this is closed as delete, I would highly recommend the closing administrator match the extended-confirmed creation protection on this title and related titles to discourage further disruption on the subject. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 17:13, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of football clubs in India#Kerala. – As WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 18:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 18:29, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of football clubs in India#Kerala.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: articles relevant
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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion.
If an editor wants to work on this article, it can be restored to Draft space. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
200 Plus
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Fails WP:GNG. All the sources contain passing mentions rather than WP:SIGCOV. I couldn't find anything online that could be utilised. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I wouldn't be opposed to a draftify as an alternative to deletion. GMH Melbourne (talk) 00:37, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I wasn't able to find any reliable sources, and aside from the Producey Podcasts source, the only sources on the page that might be argued to count as "reliable" focus entirely on a single incident (and don't really talk about the podcast). I don't think draftifying is a good solution given that there don't appear to be any RS at all. At the very least, it falls under TOOSOON, but it's likely that it will never pass the GNG. Ships & Space(Edits) 00:57, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was delete. It doesn't appear that sources provide the SIGCOV that we require to Keep an article in an AFD discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 00:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR because he’s only appeared in one film. The Film Creator (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – not at all relevant or useful, low quality article. Alon9393 (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Unable to find any WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR is not met here either. Let'srun (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I’m not going to !vote, but I must add that I saw the solo film he starred in and it’s gloriously bad, a true bomb that is a cult classic. Bearian (talk) 01:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - @Let'srun - A very simple Google search shows multiple scans of articles that were written about him. What kind of search were you doing that missed all of those? See: 1, 2 and 3. KatoKungLee (talk) 14:27, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- Personally I don't feel like these articles are suitable for meeting the GNG as they are merely either very short profiles lacking WP:SIGCOV or puff pieces talking about his hobbies rather than his career. Let'srun (talk) 23:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: can only fail WP:NACTOR as he played in only one film. But meets the general requirements for notability, see article and sources mentioned during the course of this discussion. Thank you. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Which sources do you feel meet the GNG? Let'srun (talk) 01:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I'm doubtful that the sources presented above qualify as reliable independent secondary coverage. They mostly read like advertorials or native advertising of some sort. For example, the very end of the source with by far the most coverage saysWe can't just indiscriminately throw links at an AfD and call it a day. Left guide (talk) 08:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Yavin 4. Liz Read! Talk! 00:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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This article is a non notable fork of Yavin 4 where the Battle of Yavin actually takes place, making it the third article covering basically the same material. Most source talk about Yavin 4 with only trivial mentions for Yavin itself. (Probably because Yavin appears on screen for a few seconds.) Jontesta (talk) 00:08, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to Yavin 4, the actual important location in the franchise, and very likely what people are actually looking for if they search for "Yavin". Per WP:NOPAGE, these should really be covered together, and Yavin 4 is the obvious primary topic here - case in point, the vast majority of the content of this article is actually talking about Yavin 4. There are some sourced bits of information here, such as the history of its development in the first part of the "Depiction" section, that are not present in the Yavin 4 article, so a bit of a merge should occur. Rorshacma (talk) 05:11, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Yavin 4 seems sensible (Oddly, I had no idea this latter article even existed!). However, the Yavin 4 article seems to be far too heavy on WP:INUNIVERSE material that should be cut. This is not Wookieepedia and articles of this type should mainly be concerned with writing, filming locations etc. The Yavin article has a few non-free screenshots from the movies that illustrate the topic and it would be nice if some of these could be retained. The fair-use rationales for each image will have to be updated accordingly. Cnbrb (talk) 07:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per Rorschacma. This isn't separately notable and can be covered in Yavin 4 as the main topic with WP:SIGCOV. Shooterwalker (talk) 01:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was merge to Fictional universe of Avatar. Liz Read! Talk! 00:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fork of Fictional universe of Avatar. We do not need two articles about the same thing. Both are doubtfully notable based on trivial mentions but I believe that Fictional universe of Avatar has more upside as more sources talk generally about the setting of Avatar. Jontesta (talk) 00:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: as per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 02:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. I think this might be the more notable topic, the species are the main discussed aspect of the Avatar series. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Fictional universe of Avatar, especially the Na'vi and creation stuff. The rest is excessive in-universe info. – sgeureka t•c 08:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Fictional universe of Avatar per others, no real evidence I could find that the world Pandora or its biosphere is notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 08:26, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Excessive WP:FANCRUFT with little MOS:REALWORLD info; this is not Fandom/Wikia. InfiniteNexus (talk) 06:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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