Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mahmoud fhazilat

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Delete the result was. ‑Scottywong | confer _ 03:21, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mahmoud fhazilat

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Badly translated to the point this is nonsensical, sources provided have little to no value, and google provides zero results Jac16888 ^Talk 18:33, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I figured this was likely a translation because of letter sequences that look like what Google Translator produces when it can't handle the original: Jvlahh, Almstqsy, Khmryh. I tried back-transliterating a couple of these (and "fhazilat") into Persian script and searching for the result, knowing this was an iffy proposition, and it didn't get me anywhere. I agree that, as is, the article is fraught; the references are unhelpful; and I see no hope for the existing content to be fixed up or for notability to be established without a Persian source. —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
keep Mr. Mahmoud fhazilat, Associate Professor of Tehran University and author of the book Chnryn is Mqah. After college, he is Famous.Iranmanesh53 (talk) 10:36, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That may be true, but the problem is that we have no way to verify that because we find no evidence of it via Google, and the text and references in the article are largely incomprehensible to English speakers in their current form. Google doesn't even find the phrase "Chnryn is Mqah". On Wikipedia, verifiability is essential. And articles have to be readable. In this article, it isn't only that the English isn't correct (in which case I could correct it), it's that I can't tell what much of it means.

If we could at least ascertain his notability, we could remove the content that isn't understandable and replace it with a stub simply stating who he is and providing a couple of clear references. How do you write "Mahmoud fhazilat" in Persian? Also, I'm curious: why do you spell "fhazilat" with a lower-case "f"? —Largo Plazo (talk) 10:52, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peace be upon you! Via Website Tehran University and has written books and articles, he'll get a reputation.Iranmanesh53 (talk) 11:21, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I went to the Tehran University website and searched for fhazilat. No results were returned. Even if I found a page about him, it would verify his position, but it wouldn't establish his notability. Simply writing books and articles doesn't necessarily mean someone is notable either. Please see the specific guidelines for notability of academics. —Largo Plazo (talk) 12:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and WP:TNT. This is so badly translated as to be nonsense. Even if we could verify even one alleged fact about the subject, University of Tehran has been an intellectual backwater since 1979; therefore even named professors from that school would not automatically pass the prof test. Associate professors rarely are kept at AfD -- I can only think of one or two who have succeeded, and they have been at Ivy League or Oxbridge universities -- or from other highly ranked universities. Bearian (talk) 20:45, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Sources not found. Xxanthippe (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC).[reply]
Keep.He is a prominent academic.109.225.150.4 (talk) 12:26, 29 July 2014 (UTC)— 109.225.150.4 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment I checked the references that are now given more fully in the article and found the Persian spelling of his name to be محمود فضيلت. Seeing no reason for his name in English to start with "fh", I Googled both محمود فضيلت and Mahmoud Fazilat and found hits for both. I haven't examined them for notability and probably won't because it won't alter the fact that the article as written is unusable and I agree with Bearian's WP:TNT assessment. The references given in the article are mostly to things he's written rather than anything written about him. But I thought it was worth pointing out what I'd found. —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Peace be upon you! You're right. Fazilat is spelled incorrectly typed. Is hope administrators the esteemed, article title to reform. Thank you.Iranmanesh53 (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - notability not established or proven whatsoever. I really dislike the notion of having articles on people when almost no one in En.Wiki can verify the sources anyways. Tarc (talk) 17:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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