Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matse Uwatse

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The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 00:41, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG, ran a search on her and couldn't find anything notable- except her been fired by a radio station! ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 19:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. ʍaɦʋɛօtʍ (talk) 20:11, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please sir, can you take a second look at the article and reconsider your earlier assertion that there isn't a major claim of notability? Darreg (talk) 13:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (✉) 20:54, 2 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: notable OAP. One of the best in her field nationally. Article needs work, but she's clearly notable. Use Google as i just did, if you need sources. Darreg (talk) 06:17, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Update: On a second thought, let me add some references here. 1, 2, 3 and 4.
  • Delete There is some minor coverage. From the current sources in the article there are several paragraphs about her. The rest are interviews with her non-independent comments about herself or brief mentions. There are some notable awards listed although I'm not certain if any would be considered 'well known'. Most are unsourced claims. Of the four sources listed by Darreg one is a dead link for me (takes me to [1]) and the others are again interviews of the subject which are not helpful to notability. FailsWP:ANYBIO. Happy to reconsider if better sources surface. Gab4gab (talk) 17:04, 5 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It's not my job to convince you, I didn't create the article, I'm on Wikipedia to add content on Nigerian topics, not to socialize, make friends or please anyone by !voting delete abruptly. If Wikipedia still thinks this article should be deleted despite the references I added then so be it, I really do not care. It just pains me that Wikipedia adopts an hypocritical ideology in handling issues. One thing I've noticed in my 7 years of creating articles here is that Wikipedia always fake a concern that women and African topics are lacking in coverage and more editors are needed in these areas yet they delete articles in these areas that actually contain REFERENCES at the slightest opportunities. The irony of this is that there is a general understanding among the deletionist camp that coverage in these areas are not as prevalent as others.
I've lived in Lagos for most of my life and I listen to radio quite often. I know the impact Matse had during her time at Wazobia FM above her contemporaries in other frequencies. When you delete the most popular OAP (with references) of a nation (Yes Lagos is the media capital of Nigeria) on some illogical grounds then there is certainly a problem somewhere. You are inadvertently implying that you don't want any female OAP from Nigeria, a nation that actually still listens to radio, having articles on Wikipedia.
And I can only lol at your comment that implied that multiple non-promotional independent interviews in reliable sources doesn't amount to significant coverage. If not for the more specific guidelines we have for sportpeople, entertainers, politicians, etc. there wouldn't be any Nigerian article on Wikipedia based on that statement. Sorry to say, but to me you sound quite uninformed and lacking in recognition that Africa is essentially different from Europe and the West. Better I stop here so I wouldn't be accused of not adhering to AFD etiquette. Darreg (talk) 13:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. @Darreg: You get very emotional when responding to others. You need to stop making comments about AFD participants. Please comment on content, not on the contributor. Some of the comments you made above are conflicting to say the least. If you do not care about the outcome of this AFD discussion, why participate in it? You are overreacting Darreg. WP:NTEMP supports the notion that articles on Wikipedia can be nominated for deletion at any point in time. AFD exists in order for the community to derive consensus about the notability of a topic. I disagree with your point about Wikipedia faking "a concern that women and African topics are lacking in coverage." The fact of the matter is that Wikipedia welcomes contributions from everyone. If this wasn't the case, newcomers wouldn't be able to create a page by simply adding double brackets around the page's title. If Wikipedia was more stringent, new articles would only be created via AFC. One being a popular OAP doesn't mean that they deserve to have stand-alone articles written about them. I just want you to keep this in mind.  Versace1608  Wanna Talk? 23:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Initially I was heading for a keep; while broadcasters/presenters are rarely notable, this subject had multiple awards listed. On further look, the awards themselves appear small or very recent in inception. Therefore, it doesn't really support her notability. Ifnord (talk) 16:23, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. I love the direction this AFD is going. Darreg (talk) 18:26, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: I just don't see enough here to meet notability criteria. Yes, there's some awards, but they are not notable awards, and the awards must be notable to help confer notability on an article subject. Waggie (talk) 20:05, 11 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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