Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megacities in Judge Dredd

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The result was delete. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 06:19, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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All JD locations save for Megacity One have been or about to be deleted, so what to do with this list? Merge to/with MO, or just delete? On itself it is a usual list of fancruft locations, failing WP:NFICTION/GNG, pure WP:PLOT, etc. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:20, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Seems to be WP:ALLPLOT, unencyclopedic list that fails WP:LISTN_{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 00:37, 6 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - List of fictional minutia that doesn't establish notability as a whole. TTN (talk) 22:41, 7 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Obviously can be improved, but still valuable. As for notability vs. fancruft, Judge Dredd and its megacities are cited in academic discussions of urban growth/sprawl (i.e., Evans, M. (2015). The Case against Megacities. Parameters, 45(1), 33; Canton, J. (2011). The extreme future of megacities. Significance, 8(2), 53-56; Edwards, C. (2017). The grey and the green [resilient built-environment infrastructure]. Engineering & Technology, 12(6), 70-72.), law (i.e., Glancey, R. (2015). I am the law teacher! An experiential approach using Judge Dredd to teach constitutional law. In Graphic Justice (pp. 68-84). Routledge; Greenfield, S., & Osborn, G. (1999). Film, law and the delivery of justice: The case of Judge Dredd and the disappearing courtroom. Journal of Criminal Justice and Popular Culture, 6(2), 35-45), and pop culture (i.e., Stasiowski, M. (2016). Film and the urban nightmare: Pier Vittorio Aureli’s city-archipelagos as urbanities woven from media images in Pete Travis’s Dredd and Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight Rises. Filming the City: Urban Documents, Design Practices & Social Criticism through the Lens). While Megacity One is the primary location shown and cited, the in-universe existence of other megacities and the brief description of them provided in this article helps give the reader greater context about the setting and it's implications. (I'd also note that I ended up discovering this AfD only because I ended up on Wikipedia today looking specifically for the information in this article.) Carter (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • They are mentioned only briefly. Nothing in those source suggest we need more than one sentence mentioning 'large cities are shown in this fictional universe' in Megalopolis#Megalopolis_in_Fiction, which I'll note already does so pretty adequately. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:51, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm admittedly inclusionist. I find the article useful (or potentially useful with some work) and think there's value in keeping it and improving it rather than deleting it. Carter (talk) 18:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Just a lot of plot. The concept of Megacities is already explained in the real-world Megacity, and Mega-City One can cover any additional in-universe info. – sgeureka ^t•c 08:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or merge to Mega-City One. As usual, deletion of information which can be merged elsewhere benefits nobody. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:03, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete The level of mention in secondary sources does not merit more than a mention of this issue in the general article on megacities. That is the proper encyclopedic way to approach this topic.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:37, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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