Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehul Devkala

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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 02:18, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mehul Devkala

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fails notability. Only passing mentions in provided references. No indication of any published book other than few poems in literary magazines. Looks like advertisement. Nizil (talk) 12:19, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Mehul Devkala is a well known name in Gujarati and outside literary world.Sahitya Akademi Delhi published english translation of his poems in last December issue of Indian Literature under the title "21st century voices from Gujarati Literature."There are articles on the young writers in the same wikipedia category whose books are not published and lesser known then Mehul Devkala.For example Chintan Shelat. Mehul Devkala's poetry has been appreciated by legends of Indian literature like K.Satchidanandan, Sitanshu Yashschandra,Ganesh Devy and Nabaneeta Dev Sen.Considering his page as advertisement only shows lack of knowledge in the field of contemporary Indian literature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shekhar Sen (talkcontribs) 09:22, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Shekhar Sen: The page Chintan Shelat will also be deleted. Gazal world (talk) 10:01, 20 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Nizil I would like to contest the deletion of article on Mehul Devkala.Wikipedia editors , whoever creating or editing literary pages need to be aware of contemporary literary world in particular upcoming prominent names.You can refer the Indian Express front page link of their national edition given in the article.They quote Mehul Devkala as Prominent name from Gujarat as a poet.He was one of the poet invited by Gujarat state government's Kalautsav 2016 held at Godhra.He was the only young poet along with Khalil Dhantejvi,Krishn Dave and other well known names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.31.65.179 (talk) 06:53, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, @Shekhar Sen: and IP. Every article is evaluated on its own merits so the existance of other article does not mean that your article too should exist. Every literary journal/magazine publishes poems/poem translations of any poet which does not mean that he/she becomes notable. Notable means what important work the author had done. I can not find any notable work cited in any references. Publishing book or having won an notable award or two helps to establish notability. The article does not fulfil criterias mentioned in notability guidelines (click to read it in detail). That Indian Express ref which passingly mentions him is "prominent" does not make him prominent. His contribution defines his prominence. That article is about singing some protest letter to the President. Such news does not establish any notability. Being invited to one event "Kalautsav" is not much of importance. Just being at an event does not estabish he is important. You have called him "upcoming prominent name" but we can not have article based on what he will became in future. See Wikipedia:Notability to know what can be and can not be included. Please provide independent third party references to establish he is notable either in English or in Gujarati. See Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources for more details. Simply, please present some sources such as articles, interviews, criticism "about" him or his works etc published in books, megazines, literary journals etc. to establish that he is important person presently to have his own article on Wikipedia. You have told that his poetry is praised by some people than provide the proof (reference) of it like thier article on Devkala's poetry etc. We can deal with other issues of article after establishing his notability first. Hope this helps and clariefies your questions.--Nizil (talk) 11:29, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. Chintan Shelat is already deleted.--Nizil (talk) 11:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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@Nizil , Kalautsav is not the only single appearance.He did many such poetry readings at state and National level.If you have gone through the Reference no 4.Kitabkhana then you would come to know that four day poetry festival was inaugurated with Gujarati poetry theme and Devkala was the only name along with well known poet Uddayan Thakkar from Gujarat.Kitabkhana is known to host prominent poets at Mumbai.Also reference was published in Indian Literature December 2016 issue published by Sahitya Akademi ,New Delhi,Highest literary body in the country,in the 21 st century's important Gujarati voices along with prominent names like Sahitya akademi winner Kamal Vora and others.Sahitya akademi published english translation of Devkala's poems along with brief Bio Data.If you want to verify then I can share it with you and Its an official journal by Govt of India and published by India's highest literary body Sahitya Akademi.
@Shekhar Sen:. I know about Sahitya Akademi. My point is we can not consider a poet notable enough only because his few poems are published in Akademi's journal. Hundreds of poets published this way in Akademi's journals so we can not consider all of them notable only due to this single reason. Kitabkhana ref you provided is primary source so can not be considered it as neutral. Being invited to a literary festival is not enough to prove notability. Apart from public poem recitations, does he has published any book? Or have any important contribution in literature (some poems or some public recitations are not enough)? Have won any notable awards? Or his works evaluated by any critic and that criticism published somewhere? Does he fulfils notability guidelines? You can mail scanned copy or pics of that brief biodata from Akademi journal for consideration on my talk page:User talk:Nizil Shah (go to left side panel and find [Email this user] to send email). Please message me here after you mail. We also need references to prove whatever information you have posted on his article too. Please try to find some articles and criticism "about him and his works", his interviews etc published in books, magazines, newspapers or any other reliable third party reference.--Nizil (talk) 14:02, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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