Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Percival

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The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:17, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Percival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Biography of an actor, not reliably sourced as passing WP:NACTOR. As always, actors do not all get an automatic free pass over NACTOR #1 just because the article has a filmography list in it -- actors having acting roles is literally the job description, so the notability test hinges not so much on listing roles as on the depth and quality of the media coverage that can be shown to support the significance of at least some of their performances. But this is referenced entirely to IMDB, the cast list of a single television episode in which he had a one-off bit part on the self-published website of the program's own network, and a Twitter tweet -- none of which are notability-supporting sources at all.
As I don't have access to any archive in which I could personally retrieve British media coverage from the 1960s to 1990s, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody can actually find proper sourcing to support the article -- but nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have any third party media coverage about him and his performances. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:04, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Agreed, I don't find reliable sources, he appaers to only have done minor roles. Oaktree b (talk) 19:07, 12 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the well reasoned argument of the nominator. There is not enough sourcing to show notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I think he passes WP:NACTOR: "Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions" See for example the British Film Institute and Theatricalia. He played the "trendy master" Mr Mitchell in a number of episodes of Grange Hill: The Stage - Thursday 16 February 1978 "Only a teacher or pupil could assess the authenticity of the classroom scenes. but Michael Percival, at once acerbic and matey as the form-master, and his charges, diverse in size, colour and nature. seem just about right." Reading Evening Post - Friday 21 February 1997 "Thrilling Role for Michael Percival" It's a piece he would like to direct one day for, in a career stretching over more than 30 years, he has always alternated acting with directing. Indeed he holds some kind of record as England's youngest professional theatre director, being still in his teens when he was asked to do a rep company production. Even as an actor there are two distinct sides to his work — "on stage I play psychopaths and on TV loveable cuddly people. An exception to this is the sinister lawyer he plays in the TV drama The Sculptress. His widely known TV role was as the dim-witted MI5 agent in three series of The Piglet Files" Piecesofuk (talk) 08:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:50, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Being part of the "Grange Hill" franchise surely passes as notability. Was also in 17 of the 21 episodes of "The Piglet Files", showing he was a regular in another show. Also being the partner of a Doctor Who assistant might help things. I've been through and tried to link his name where it appears on various articles.2A00:23C6:D885:8501:28D5:864B:ACCB:AAEA (talk) 11:57, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz ^talk 01:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. WP:NBIO only establishes that someone islikely to be notable. In this case, whether we consider their roles significant or not, it is clear that they fail WP:GNG and are not notable. BilledMammal (talk) 04:07, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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