Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohammed Nayeemuddin

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The result was keep. -- Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 05:44, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mohammed Nayeemuddin

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This appears to be a highly undesirable individual who has been shot dead by the police but for whom there is no good evidence that he has ever been prosecuted for the alleged crimes. The refs read like tabloid sensationalism . Fails WP:BLPCRIME Velella ^{Velella Talk} 16:31, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:39, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 18:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per failing of ~~BLPCRIME~~ edit GNG and BLP1E.Strikerforce^Talk 20:05, 18 September 2018 (UTC) edit Strikerforce^Talk 21:28, 18 September 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Disagreement between myself and @DBigXray: over the article's name aside, the sourcing for this article has vastly improved since my initial !vote. I can now say Keep per GNG, as a result of the additional sources that suggest that LASTING is met, among other things. Strikerforce^Talk 15:32, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Strikerforce Isn't BLP1E also a BLP policy, note the subject died in 2016.--DBigXrayᗙ 21:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Single event - which I feel applies here, as laid out below - links to a see also of BLP1E. Their use here is interchangeable. Strikerforce^Talk 21:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Strikerforce, Please accept my thanks for re-considering this !vote based on WP:HEY, cheers and regards. --DBigXrayᗙ 15:36, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The article has since been moved - inappropriately, in my opinion - to Nayeem. Since this discussion has been opened, I will not revert that move. Strikerforce^Talk 20:07, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Subject was Notable and passes the WP:GNG and WP:CRIMINAL due to the sustained coverage in reliable secondary sources which persists beyond contemporaneous news coverage spread over a period of twenty years. I have listed below the sources I used for judging the notability of the gangster. To summarise, First is the Official statement on the Telangana Chief Minister's website about him [1] Then coverage in Mainstream national media, with coverage spread over several years related to his links, crimes, death, investigation post death. (Note: no tabloids in the list.) 2012 1998 (Gangs attack rights activists in Andhra Pradesh from 2005) 2017 [2] [3] [4][5] [6] [7][8] [9] [10] [11] 2014 --DBigXrayᗙ 20:47, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per WP:GNG and WP:CRIMINAL because of good secondary sourcing.BabbaQ (talk) 20:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable, I'm not seeing a pass of GNG and it probably falls under WP:BLP1E. Anyways, to the people above who commented it failed BLPCRIME, be aware that BLPCRIME is not a notability guideline and is in fact pertaining to keeping accusations of crimes out of BLP's before they are proven. I am in strong support of deletion. Vermont (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vermont 1. The person died in 2016 so its not BLP. 2. The Person was covered in mainstream media for more than 25 years. (e.g. 2012 1998 so its not 1EVENT. I have added more sources and text before find search links for keywords. --DBigXrayᗙ 21:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, help us out here - for what event other than being an alleged killer was he notable? Note that the use of the word "alleged" is due to the fact that, as far as any references provided have shown, he was never actually convicted for the crimes of which he was accused. Strikerforce^Talk 21:30, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DBigXray, BLP applies to those recently deceased as well. Either way, he only seems to be notable for that one event and thus I believe this warrants a section in another article but an article specifically about Nayeem. Vermont (talk) 21:43, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi All, He was notable for being a dreaded Naxalite leader since 1998 see (Gangs attack rights activists in Andhra Pradesh from 2005), He then became a police informer and led to the killings of several naxalite squads in the region. He then became a Gangster, and was finally killed. [12]. I have added several links in the comments above with years (I dont want to repost). Please take a look. regards.--DBigXrayᗙ 21:52, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: even Speedy delete. As it was written, it stated he's a criminal and murderer which he was not convicted for - which is a WP:BLP violation (even though he's now dead - it applies to recently deceased too). BLP1E applies as well. Toddst1 (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tod, Article is judged on the subjects notability and not simply based on the current content see WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP DBigXrayᗙ 22:03, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article is judged on all aspects of its reasons to be. Toddst1 (talk) 22:10, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This article and two other biographies are all relying on the same coverage. Belli Lalitha and K. S. Vyas and this article could all be merged into Crime in Andhra Pradesh. As could coverage of any other Naxalites. — Frayæ (Talk/Spjall) 22:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment WP:HEY All, I have improved the articles and added some quality sources to show the notability. It can be further be expanded but for now, I hope the sources provided above and in the article should be enough--DBigXrayᗙ 22:32, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep — Despicable but notable man, per WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO and WP:NCRIME.
Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 13:21, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - notable gang leader / militant leader. BLP not applicable (dead over 2 years, and one could possibly argue WELLKNOWN). LASTING national level coverage in India in English (which quite possibly means non-English sources exist as well) - which would seem to satisfy GNG / NCRIME. His killing has interesting property ramifications,[13] as well as IA in the relevant Police.[14] Icewhiz (talk) 13:47, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:SIGCOV, and, he's still in the news 2 yrs post-death: Times of India Suspended cop being probed for 'Maoist links New Delhi [New Delhi]26 Apr 2018. "Eleven months after many police officers were suspended for alleged links with slain Maoist-turned gangster Mohammed Nayeemuddin, the Commissioner of Inquiries has formally initiated a probe against suspended additional superintendent of police (CID) M Srinivas Rao..." E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Ample evidence of notability. Maproom (talk) 16:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per WP:GNG Sheldybett (talk) 15:20, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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