Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nicholas Sulentic

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The result was delete‎. Just Step Sideways ^{from this world ..... today} 00:11, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicholas Sulentic

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Biography of a businessperson, not properly referenced as having a strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for businesspeople. The attempted notability claim here is that he owned local businesses, which is not "inherently" notable without WP:GNG-worthy sourcing for it, but the only footnotes provided are a glancing namecheck of his existence on one page of a government report and a very short blurb in the nearest bigger-city newspaper to his hometown upon his death, neither of which are substantive enough to get him over GNG. (There was also a stack of primary sources contextlessly listed under the references section without actually being used to footnote anything in the article body, which aren't support for notability and which I've removed on WP:ELNO grounds.)
While this isn't a deletion rationale per se, it also warrants note (because it speaks to how much traffic and maintenance this is getting) that even though he lived and worked and died in Waterloo, Iowa, the article has spent six years incorrectly wikilinking to Waterloo, Ontario instead of Iowa, and the name of his department store ("Pinkerton's") was also incorrectly wikilinked to Pinkerton, Ontario despite that place having nothing to do with Nicholas Sulentic (or either of the Waterloos) either. And furthermore, there was an obvious conflict of interest here, as the creator's username was Tsulentic, indicating a member of the subject's own family.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to have more and better sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and Iowa. Bearcat (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. This appears to have been a successful local business person, one of thousands. Bearian (talk) 04:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink, Croatia, Illinois, and Wyoming. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:11, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe keep. The Silos & Smokestacks National Heritage Area which is run by the National Park Service has a webpage on the man here ( https://www.campsilos.org/wp-content/uploads/excursions/grout/one/act5b.htm ) Granted its for school children learning history at the museum, but being the subject of study for school kids at a museum run by the NPS would seem to confer some historic significance beyond WP:MILL. There is a foundation and park named for him according to this.4meter4 (talk) 22:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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