Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nils Wogram
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The result was keep. Eddie891 Talk Work 10:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
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Effectively unsourced BLP (no inline citations) but neither source is INDY in any case. BEFORE found no sources meeting WP:42. No assertion of meeting NMUSICBIO. StartGrammarTime (talk) 08:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Bands and musicians, Music, and Germany. StartGrammarTime (talk) 08:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @StartGrammarTime, thoughts on whether the dewiki version contains SIGCOV? JayCubby 01:31, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @JayCubby, thanks for asking. Die Zeit and Die Welt are currently in the en-WP version, both interviews. Issuu has been written by Wogram himself (assuming the machine translation is accurate; it's all in first-person). The first Laages source is pretty short but arguably usable, although I'd want to see something more substantial to back it up; the second looks pretty good and in my opinion would be a good source to establish notability. JazzThing is unfortunately only a single paragraph. In total I see only one RS on de-Wiki, plus one maybe.
- I can whip this up into a source assessment table if that makes it easier, but my tl;dr is that I don't see SIGCOV by our standards. StartGrammarTime (talk) 04:08, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I added 2 bylined English language reviews of works by this person, both of which are complimentary, e.g. "one of Germany's most imaginative and inventive musicians" (Lindsay). He has no biographical article on Grove, but is mentioned in the context of works with several other musicians. AllyD (talk) 07:35, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep as well as the second Laages source, and the Guardian review added to the article there is this AllMusic staff-written biography here, and staff-written album reviews here, here, here, here, and here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep agreed with above - articles in multiple secondary sources meets WP:MUSICBIO. ResonantDistortion 16:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Several albums on Enja Records (as stated on the page) is enough to meet WP:MUSICBIO #5. I see coverage of his recordings in DownBeat, The New York City Jazz Record and Cadence, and comments on him in Joachim-Ernst Berendt's Jazz Book. I can add content from these if requested. EddieHugh (talk) 21:46, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
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