Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Obersturmmann

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:41, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obersturmmann

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Procedural nom; a malformed PROD with rationale

This does not seem important enough to warrant its own page. Indeed, on the German language wiki, this information is merely included on the SA page. was removed. I don't see sufficient sourcing, but would not be surprised if sourcing exists. Walsh90210 (talk) 17:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Germany. Walsh90210 (talk) 17:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Plenty of sourcing, as with all such ranks, all of which have articles. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- What sourcing? According to some talk-page comments, the Sturmabteilung didn't have this rank; it's unclear what organization in Nazi Germany did. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I have no idea what the "plenty of sourcing" Necrothesp is referring to. Almost nothing comes up for this word at all on google scholar, and the hits are to sources that appear to be lists of one kind or another (example), or from very dodgy sources. (For an example, here's the description of one of the books that comes up: "We had to do it. We had to reprint this book. Rarely has a book had such an impact on so many of us here at Ignatius Press. It is one of the most powerful and moving books we have come across. If you can only buy one book this season, this must be the one." This doesn't scream "strong editorial oversight" to me.) We don't mention it on Sturmabteilung either, so it's not a good redirect destination. If anyone does find this plenty of sourcing, please do let me know. -- asilvering (talk) 03:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete doesn't have enough reliable sources to show it's important on its own. The topic is better covered in other, broader articles about Nazi paramilitary ranks. Yakov-kobi (talk) 15:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.