Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oceanic zone (2nd nomination)

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The result was speedy keep Nominator withdrawn (non-admin closure) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oceanic zone

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Another page referring to same topic with more appropriate and notable title already exists (see Pelagic zone) DishitaBhowmik 15:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC) I have resarched on this topic and various sources suggest that Oceanic zone is an indicative and informal term for Pelagic zone. Even their definitions on their respective pages suggest so. Here are a few references to validate my point.[reply]

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Also notice how the article also shows the same sub-divisions as is usually the Pelagic zone divided into i.e. Epipelagic, Mesopelagic, Bathypelagic and Abyssopelagic. I was going to suggest that the page be merged. However, the content is nearly same as what exists on the other page. So I think that it can be safely deleted without any loss of information.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions. DishitaBhowmik 15:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. DishitaBhowmik 15:25, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that the nominator is referring to our article on the pelagic zone. The sources that I can find, such as [1] and [2], do not treat this as a synomym, but say that the oceanic zone is a subset of the pelagic zone. Phil Bridger (talk) 15:57, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly Phil Bridger, but the oceanic zone constitutes most of the pelagic zone and the two are treated as synonymous unless at beginner level. This is due the fact that neritic zone is highly rich in biodiversity and repesents very less of it. Also it greatly differs from the rest of pelagic zone. Thus, it studied as a separate subject of study and interpretation of oceanic zone almost merges with the Pelagic zone.

This article may also be redirected to the Pelagic zone article, which can be edited to tell readers about the slight difference between the two. DishitaBhowmik 16:30, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - "Oceanic zone" refers to the open ocean beyond the continental shelf; it refers to offshore waters, in contrast to inshore waters. "Pelagic zone" refers to the body of water that stretches between the ocean surface and the ocean bottom; it refers to the open and free waters in the body of the sea that are not restricted by being close to some boundary, like rocks or the seafloor or the surface. The two concepts are fundamentally different, though they do have a tendency to get mixed up. For example, instead of saying as I just did, that the pelagic zone "refers to open water..." I could equally have said that the pelagic zone "refers to open ocean...". And then it might seem as though I am talking about the oceanic zone. But the "oceanic zone" is not the same as the ocean, is a more specific term than the ocean. I can see why Dishita is finding this confusing, so I will rewrite, in due course, part of the oceanic zone article to provide some clarification. – Epipelagic (talk) 09:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Epipelagic. —Мандичка^YO 😜 11:57, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Epipelagic! I think now that it would be better not to delete the article. However it needs major rewording and expansion. We can close the discussion now. DishitaBhowmik 15:52, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.