Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pakistan–Soviet air confrontations

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 10:13, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan–Soviet air confrontations

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Fancruft written with poor sources and is full of WP:OR. The creator of the article was indeffed long ago for copyright violations[1]. Nxcrypto Message 09:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Politics, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Russia. Nxcrypto Message 09:26, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 17:54, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article needs significant rewriting but is very likely notable.

Noah ^💬 18:22, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Article appears to be a fan cruft, created by a blocked user, as it is heavily reliant on unverifiable claims, dubious sources and exaggerated causality figures. It lacks encyclopedic tone, significant secondary sources, failing WP:V. Much of content seems speculative, with a focus on glorifying specific incidents rather than providing a neutral and well researched account.Mithilanchalputra (Talk) 05:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 11:33, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:33, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Not convinced that this is notable enough for its own article. The sourcing isn’t great either. A lot of the content actually misrepresents or outright uses sources in a WP:OR manner. See my content removals. I wouldn’t be surprised if I found more.
Someguywhosbored (talk) 08:47, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Re-write: Most of the articles created by M Waleed are used for nationalist edits on TikTok where they essentially screenshot the info boxes of certain battles or wars to one-up other people. I have had to edit numerous of his articles before last year, as they contained inaccurate information or complete fabrications that did not align with the source material. A lot of his articles relating to Pakistani-Afghan relations also coincidentally omit the deaths of Pakistani civilians during attacks launched by KHAD or the Afghan Armed Forces, with only the deaths of Afghan refugees being taken from the sources and placed into the article. The sources in this specific article do not cite any sort of Pakistani victory, and the creator of the article has used “defense.pk” as a source, despite it being a Pakistani community website aimed at being a military forum for Pakistani’s interested in their country’s own strategic or military affairs.

However, it wouldn’t be a bad thing if the article in itself was re-written to reflect a more neutral standpoint and to portray it as a series of incidents with no victor. The article is still full of worthy amounts of information detailing aerial confrontations between the USSR, Afghanistan and Pakistan. AfghanParatrooper19891 (talk) 11:28, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nationalist POV pushing at best. Nothing encyclopaedic about it. Agletarang (talk) 14:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The content appears to be fan-created in nationalist POV and article also contains numerous unverified claims. CelesteQuill (talk) 10:37, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.