Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pranger

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Pillory. (non-admin closure) buidhe 10:16, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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History

1. This article was created on 9 July 2004 by user: Husnock. It had no sources — but that was not usual for articles created at that time.
2. The {{1911}} was added 25 March 2006 by user:Fastifex
3. The title parameter, "title=Pranger", was added on 7 May 2017 by user:DerbyCountyinNZ
4. Today I am going through the backlog of {{EB1911}} and came to this article (Pranger) which is listed in "Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating a citation from the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica without Wikisource reference"
   • There is no such article in the EB1911 see Wikisource:1911 Encyclopædia Britannica/Vol 22:4
   • The only mention of this word in EB1911 is in Ws: EB1911: Branks
   • It is also mentioned on Wikisource:An Etymological Dictionary of the German Language/Pranger

As there currently is no German entry for this word (and it is a German word not an English one), there is no reason for English Wikipedia to have an an article under this name. Particularly as English language sources that mention it seem to not be certain whether it is best related to a "Scold's bridle" (EB1911) or the "Pillory" (The American Cyclopaedia: A Popular Dictionary of General Knowledge, Volume 13: Pillory).

This article was created with no sources and after 16 years there are still none (and no evidence that it is anything but a German term for something in English, so it is not a notable item in English), it is time it was deleted. PBS (talk) 14:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2020 June 16. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 15:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - not notable, and Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Thanks to nom for the detailed and model WP:BEFORE research. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:45, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect or Delete - the de-Wiki article Pranger corresponds and is linked to the en-Wiki article Pillory, so possibly redirect the en-Wiki Pranger to Pillory. If not, then delete, as it is already on Wiktionary. Ingratis (talk) 02:07, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Europe-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 06:43, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 09:41, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge and redirect to Pillory. Clearly notable, although maybe not as a separate article, given it is a type of pillory. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:40, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• What is notable about this a foreign word and how do you reckon that it is a different type of pillory? (people have been tied to a post and pilloried in many countries).PBS (talk) 12:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• What part of the unsourced text in "Pranger" do you recommend merging into "Pillory"? -- PBS (talk) 12:47, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Pillory. EB 1911, 21, p611 (article 'Pillory') says "In Germany it was known as pranger." Any other content is unsourced and may be WP:OR and should not be merged. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.