Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Protests of 1968
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Liz Read! Talk! 07:10, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
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There are little or no references which link the several events. They bear at most a family resemblance. (Indeed, one may cite an example of protests in the Soviet sphere and protests against the genocide in Mexico both being possibly anti-authoritarian. Perhaps the 2 case studies each may even have references to support the claim that they are anti-authoritarian. But to place them in the same article for that reason would be culpable of wp:synthesis.) Therefore, the link between the many protests lacks wp:notability. Wikipedia articles are not to be "Lists or repositories of loosely associated topics", because WP:NOTCATALOG. On top of that, this page is guilty of wp:crosscat between the 1968 events and protests. Finally, one may argue that the indiscriminate lumping of disparate Left-leaning movements together, which possibly fabricates in readers a artificial narrative of a 1960s' revival of the Left or ascent of New social movements be culpable of wp:advocacy - be it lauding or derogating (and raising fear) the disparate left-leaning New social movements. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FatalSubjectivities (talk • contribs) 16:45, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per 1968, Revolution in the World-System: Theses and Queries. ときさき くるみ not because they are easy, but because they are hard 11:59, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
- Indeed, this JSTOR article has been written by two academics with wp:notability. However, Many more wp:ref - which explicitly connect "Protests" (or Political demonstration, or revolution etc) and the year 1968 in particular - are needed to prevent the article topic itself from having wp:undue weight. (Undue-weight content ought be trimmed. But if the article's very heart is undue-weight, we may agree that the article itself ought be removed.) "1968 protests" in such wp:ref ought to be an expression by itself, as in "2007–2008 financial crisis" or "2019 novel coronavirus". Otherwise, articles 'Protests of 1969' or '... of 1970' may exist. Therefore, Wikipedia's nonacceptance of wp:crosscat helps prevent such articles from existing. FatalSubjectivities (talk) 17:27, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep / Oppose There are numerous sources that cover this. - SchroCat (talk) 02:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Malformed nomination fixed.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, * Pppery * it has begun... 04:19, 21 May 2023 (UTC)- Keep: per discussion above and sources already linked in article Jack4576 (talk) 05:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 10:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Numerous reliable sources cover this, the events seem to be somewhat connected. JML1148 (Talk | Contribs) 22:55, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep I really don't understand the nom's rationale outside incomprehensible political jargon; these protests happened in 1968 and related to each other in some manner. Nate • (chatter) 02:11, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yup- but, I guess, actually your move (to guard wikipedia from turning too academic) is precisely my point. This article is turning into some kind of research paper with its very own original theory of what happened. FatalSubjectivities (talk) 04:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Meaning, you and I can't just create a page like "Protests of 1963" made from snippets of articles from Category:1963 protests, and cite evidence (however truthful) to argue that several 1963 protests are related. Because that's just like we're creating a collaborative research paper. Same thing applies here. FatalSubjectivities (talk) 04:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yup- but, I guess, actually your move (to guard wikipedia from turning too academic) is precisely my point. This article is turning into some kind of research paper with its very own original theory of what happened. FatalSubjectivities (talk) 04:08, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment I understand none of this at all, and you should stop unless you want this closed as a train wreck nom. Nate • (chatter) 22:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Strong keep I remember these vividly. There was a wave of interconnected upheavals around the world. —A. B. (talk • contribs • global count) 15:36, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- I not only remember various protests being interconnected in 1968, but also studied them as a unit in a university course later in life. Of course this is a notable topic. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:39, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep: Needs cleanup, sourcing, but meets the standard for an overview article per WP:SUMMARY. // Timothy :: talk 18:06, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Notable topic, meets WP:SIGCOV and WP:SUMMARY. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 02:01, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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