Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ranjithame (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. While there is some disagreement over the level of independence of cited sources, delete has the upper hand in terms of both arguments and numbers. Arguments relating to the fact that the series is still airing suggest that this could be a WP:TOOSOON case. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:59, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:GNG; I can find no reliable sources to indicate notability (a search for "Ranjithame" finds only a Tamil-language song). Also, WP:FUTURE- this isn't a catalogue of upcoming minor soap operas. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 17:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC) Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 17:29, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Absolutely no sources, no claim of notability and no information useful to the reader. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. ^Tools: (talk, contribs) 17:35, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This and whatever I had in the first nomination are all namesakes of the popular song that came in a Tamil movie, and this minor namesake's NN is clearly shown by the lack of citations. The best use of this article name is to redirect it to the film's soundtrack article. Karnataka (talk) 17:44, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with that this article itself should be deleted, the above was just an idea with the link Karnataka (talk) 07:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Television and India. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:03, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I can only find a couple of press releases in news outlets (example), it does not yet pass the notability threshold. Qcne (talk) 19:32, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as non-notable. In addition, I would object to the redirect suggested above as having little justification. Deckkohl (talk) 11:27, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm neutral on the redirect issue; it's a bit of a strecth, and possibly WP:ASTONISHING, but still comes under {{r from subtopic}}. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 13:17, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong Keep: This is an upcoming Tamil languages series, I was added more source.[1][2][3] The article have all the possible news sources which are from well known highly sourced websites like (The Times of India, News18 Tamil Nadu, Hindu Tamil Thisai.--P.Karthik.95 (talk) 19:09, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to evaluate new sources. Also, noting that this article was the subject of an AFD recently that closed as Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: the subject of the previous nomination (by me) was completely different to this one. This is about an upcoming TV series, the previous one was about a game show. Like I mentioned above, the usage of the term 'Ranjithame' has bolstered after the release of the song in the same name, which is probably the primary topic of this. Karnataka (talk) 15:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: here's a source assessment, input/modifications appreciated. I hope to let this table represent consensus, not just my own assessment, so feel free to edit it. At the moment, GNG is shaky, largely because I'm unsure about source reliability. I also quite conflicted about tThe first times of india source- it seems like routine coverage and unreliable, but I may be biased against any article that uses language like "deets inside" in the headline. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 17:46, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. I do not agree with the table above especially the last column. Hindu Tamil Thisai source may mention the name once but the whole article is about the television series only. Vikatan is also a reliable source. Although The Times of India is listed as may or may not be reliable, it is one of the main newspapers of India and should be considered reliable for non-gossip material. DareshMohan (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, feel free to modify the source assessment table. As I said, I'll let it represent group consensus, not just my own opinion. Edward-Woodrow :) _[talk] 20:55, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• I feel like the Tamil Thisai source is not independent - it's only two paragraphs, and first being a introduction to the director and the second is a quote from him that explains his ideas for the story. I'm not exactly sure how factually correct the first News18 source is because as it notes in the article itself, there were no official details on the serial. Also note that only three sentences provide information on the serial, with others just being actor history. The second News18 source is about the actor, their involvement in another serial, and a passing mention that they'll take part in this one. Vikatan source talks about a completely different topic. I feel like both ToI sources are routine coverage, half of the content is just about actor history and the content about the serial are in both ToI articles. Karnataka (talk) 22:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The source analysis is fairly explicit in its conclusions. It must be delete as it fails WP:SIGCOV. The article should have been created in draft. It is clear a bunch of UPE editors have decided to promote it on Wikipedia. I'll be sending them to coin. scope_creep^Talk 10:51, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This discussion is still current and ongoing with new comments recently added. Relisting for one more cycle to help ascertain consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Dusti^{*Let's talk!*} 20:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: The show still airing, in future can add more source. P.Karthik.95 (talk) 15:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems like a WP:ATA#CRYSTAL argument. Once this may be shown as a notable TV series for encyclopedic entry can definitely be recreated in draftspace like mentioned. Karnataka (talk) 18:54, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist as there is a dispute about the source analysis table results.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.